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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Im new to nitrous but i have been researching for about a week and i need some advice.
I think i may go with the HSW sudden impact single nozzle wet kit...

I will be getting the kit in the next couple months and i will have about 112k miles. Im planning on running a 100 shot.

Here are some questions:
1. I know i will need to upgrade my fuel pump so is an Inline pump good enough? Im confused on which pump to get.(inTank/Inline)

2. Which window switch should i use? So far i have looked at the BNM, Dynotune, MSD and Nitrous Outlet(digital)

3. I would also like to know which heater you guys recommend?
4. I am on the fence about a FPSS. Seems like they cause some problems, so should i use one?

5. I am also interestd in a bottle opener since i want to mount the bottle in the spare tire area. What opener is good?

6. Is there a difference in Purge Kits or does the brand not really matter?

Oh and i will get a set of Tr6 plugs

Sorry for all the questions. I just feel pretty confused because there are so many different companies to chose from and i want to do it right the first time.

Thanks for you help
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Im new to nitrous but i have been researching for about a week and i need some advice.
I think i may go with the HSW sudden impact single nozzle wet kit...

I will be getting the kit in the next couple months and i will have about 112k miles. Im planning on running a 100 shot.

Here are some questions:
1. I know i will need to upgrade my fuel pump so is an Inline pump good enough? Im confused on which pump to get.(inTank/Inline)

2. Which window switch should i use? So far i have looked at the BNM, Dynotune, MSD and Nitrous Outlet(digital)

3. I would also like to know which heater you guys recommend?
4. I am on the fence about a FPSS. Seems like they cause some problems, so should i use one?

5. I am also interestd in a bottle opener since i want to mount the bottle in the spare tire area. What opener is good?

6. Is there a difference in Purge Kits or does the brand not really matter?

Oh and i will get a set of Tr6 plugs

Sorry for all the questions. I just feel pretty confused because there are so many different companies to chose from and i want to do it right the first time.

Thanks for you help
I'm certainly not the final word, and relatively new myself, but here's my answers:

1) I went with the Racetronix plug n' play kit, which includes a new walbro 255 for the tank, and all the necessary parts and connections for a complete stock drop-in, so you don't have to hack up the fuel bucket in the tank like many other kits. Also has a wiring harness that runs to the back of the altenator, so you're always getting max voltage to the pump, and thereby max flow. It also has the ability to add in a future boost-a-pump, which I believe is an inline pump. But with the base racetronix kit, you should be good up to ~600rwhp.

2) I have the nitrous outlet digital switch (which I believe is the same as the dynotune) and really like it. Can control two stages, and also allows you to use the TPS sensor signal as the WOT activation, instead of a mechanical micro-switch.

3) I went with the NX heater, however the 860 heater/bracket combo looks real nice. I think the general consensus is to go with a heater that operates off bottle pressure, rather than temperature.

4) I'm running one, I'd rather have the safety of one. I can't vouch for how well they work, since I've yet to fire my system (just finished instal about a week ago). I'd at least try one at first, its minimal cost, and if it is too flaky, take it out.

5) I have the NX which works well so far. I'd suggest getting a mechanical opener that turns the bottle valve, as opposed to a solenoid style like one of the NOS ones which uses an internal valve.

6) I don't think there's much difference in purge kits, other than I believe Nitrous Outlet (and maybe the other suppliers) offer an extra large solenoid kit.
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NHRATA01,

Thanks for the help.
I looked at the racetronix kit last nite and researched it some and it seems to be popular.
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Im new to nitrous but i have been researching for about a week and i need some advice.
I think i may go with the HSW sudden impact single nozzle wet kit...

I will be getting the kit in the next couple months and i will have about 112k miles. Im planning on running a 100 shot.

Here are some questions:
1. I know i will need to upgrade my fuel pump so is an Inline pump good enough? Im confused on which pump to get.(inTank/Inline)

2. Which window switch should i use? So far i have looked at the BNM, Dynotune, MSD and Nitrous Outlet(digital)

3. I would also like to know which heater you guys recommend?
4. I am on the fence about a FPSS. Seems like they cause some problems, so should i use one?

5. I am also interestd in a bottle opener since i want to mount the bottle in the spare tire area. What opener is good?

6. Is there a difference in Purge Kits or does the brand not really matter?

Oh and i will get a set of Tr6 plugs

Sorry for all the questions. I just feel pretty confused because there are so many different companies to chose from and i want to do it right the first time.

Thanks for you help
Give Matt a call as your interested his base kit. He helped me out with custom hoses and injectors.
1. Talk to Matt about the Fuel pump
2. The DynoTune and Nitrous Outlet Digital switch are the same, they are made by FJO, I highly recommend it as it was worked great for me. Matt has controllers as well, that are popular.
3. I am running the DynoTune heater works great. At the same time Matt has an great looking and innovative heater. Another option would be the 860 Bracket/Heater combo.
4. I am not running a FPSS but many recommend it. It just needs to be set correctly. I see about a 6-10 PSI decrease at WOT so probably 45 psi is where I would set it to come on if I had one.
5. I have a Dynotune opener, HSW has an opener as well. Since your getting/ looking at his kit, his opener will surely work with his bottle.
6. I have used Dynotune, Nitrous Outlet and HSW for components for my system, they were all top quality in my opinion. I don't think you could go wrong with any of their purge kits, or any of their systems.

Beer
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Originally Posted by Beer99C5
Give Matt a call as your interested his base kit. He helped me out with custom hoses and injectors.
1. Talk to Matt about the Fuel pump
2. The DynoTune and Nitrous Outlet Digital switch are the same, they are made by FJO, I highly recommend it as it was worked great for me. Matt has controllers as well, that are popular.
3. I am running the DynoTune heater works great. At the same time Matt has an great looking and innovative heater. Another option would be the 860 Bracket/Heater combo.
4. I am not running a FPSS but many recommend it. It just needs to be set correctly. I see about a 6-10 PSI decrease at WOT so probably 45 psi is where I would set it to come on if I had one.
5. I have a Dynotune opener, HSW has an opener as well. Since your getting/ looking at his kit, his opener will surely work with his bottle.
6. I have used Dynotune, Nitrous Outlet and HSW for components for my system, they were all top quality in my opinion. I don't think you could go wrong with any of their purge kits, or any of their systems.

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Thanks Beer i really appreciate your input.

Hopefully i can give Matt a call soon so he can help me out.
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Also take a look at the FullThrottle Walbro in tank fuel pump kit, it's a quality item and their customer service is excellent from what I have seen. A few sponsors sell their kit as well, it's very reasonably priced.
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Also take a look at the FullThrottle Walbro in tank fuel pump kit, it's a quality item and their customer service is excellent from what I have seen. A few sponsors sell their kit as well, it's very reasonably priced.
Ok thanks!

i'll look into it right now

edit: I just looked at their hot wire kit and it is priced at 59.99. So do i buy a fuel pump and run it with this kit?

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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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It's best to get their in tank pump with the hot wire kit, that way everything is just plug and play without a hassle. It's the best deal I have found yet. A key point is the "direct fit" fuel pumps. LS1 pumps have a venturi system integrated into the pump which Racetronix and FullThrottle have both replicated in their fuel pumps so that they drop right in using the existing fuel bucket. Keep this in mind when looking at other fuel pumps, not all are a direct fit.
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Nasty performance has a special going on for the Full Throttle pump with wiring harness only $185 right now until March 10th. That will be the cheapest you will find for a direct fit high output pump with hot wire kit. Here's the link to the thread (https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=666690).
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I have looked into the plug in play pump and hot wire kit and i will definately invest in one.


Wow nasty has a great price!
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is a in-tank pump really necessary for only a 100 wet shot?
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Im new to nitrous but i have been researching for about a week and i need some advice.
I think i may go with the HSW sudden impact single nozzle wet kit...

I will be getting the kit in the next couple months and i will have about 112k miles. Im planning on running a 100 shot.

Here are some questions:
1. I know i will need to upgrade my fuel pump so is an Inline pump good enough? Im confused on which pump to get.(inTank/Inline)

2. Which window switch should i use? So far i have looked at the BNM, Dynotune, MSD and Nitrous Outlet(digital)

3. I would also like to know which heater you guys recommend?
4. I am on the fence about a FPSS. Seems like they cause some problems, so should i use one?

5. I am also interestd in a bottle opener since i want to mount the bottle in the spare tire area. What opener is good?

6. Is there a difference in Purge Kits or does the brand not really matter?

Oh and i will get a set of Tr6 plugs

Sorry for all the questions. I just feel pretty confused because there are so many different companies to chose from and i want to do it right the first time.

Thanks for you help
1) Racetronix plug and play with the hotwire and walbro pump.
2) MSD
3) NX heater
4) I say get one. Better safe than sorry, and they are not all that expensive.
5) NX opener
6) I'm running nx, but like stated check the Nitrous Outlet.

You may want to look into progressive controllers also.
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Originally Posted by camaro4me
is a in-tank pump really necessary for only a 100 wet shot?
I only plan on running a 100 wet as well so i would like to know the answer too.....?
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Originally Posted by xxtheonlyxx
1) Racetronix plug and play with the hotwire and walbro pump.
2) MSD
3) NX heater
4) I say get one. Better safe than sorry, and they are not all that expensive.
5) NX opener
6) I'm running nx, but like stated check the Nitrous Outlet.

You may want to look into progressive controllers also.
Thanks for your help.

I have no knowledge on progressive controllers so i will look into them tonite
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The Boost-A-Pump is an option for a small shot but will probably end up being more expensive. There is also another option for a lower output in-tank pump as well which is a little cheaper from Nasty I believe. The Walbro's are designed to hold up very well with the increased voltages though, which isn't true for other pumps. From what I hear most people do the in-tank pump because of the F-Body fueling design, and an in-line doesn't work as well with the way our fuel system is set up. There's more info on that on this site, but for the money you can't go wrong with an in-tank and hot wire kit for $185.

From what I've seen the progressive controllers are more used on the bigger shots, I haven't seen too many people using them on 100 shots or less.

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If you are only doing a 100 wet then you may not want to worry about the controller. It will help with evening out your shot so that the 100 doesnt hit all at once, but at 100 you should be cool (depending on what gear you spray in). What I did at first was I got a 150 shot, but set my progressive controller so that it never sprayed over a 100 shot. Something to think about if you get the racetronix.
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If you are only doing a 100 wet then you may not want to worry about the controller. It will help with evening out your shot so that the 100 doesnt hit all at once, but at 100 you should be cool (depending on what gear you spray in). What I did at first was I got a 150 shot, but set my progressive controller so that it never sprayed over a 100 shot. Something to think about if you get the racetronix.
Oh ok i understand what a controller does now. I dont think i will need that. I will never go over 150 shot. As of now i plan on shooting a 75 shop until i get use to it then go to a 100 shot and leave it there.

Thanks for the controller info
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is a in-tank pump really necessary for only a 100 wet shot?
bump for an answer.
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Originally Posted by camaro4me
bump for an answer.
100 wet on a stock motor...I think the stock pump should be fine for that, its usually good to around 500rwhp. A fuel pressure gauge is always a good idea though to see if its not keeping up.
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