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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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With My Ms3 Setup I Normally Spin My Motor To About 6800 Im Gonna Start Spraying A 150-200 Shot (rwhp) Soon And I Was Wondering If I Need To Lower The Rpms Any6 Due To The N20?
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are you going to be running a window switch?
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Yep... I Just Wanna Know Is It Safe To Spray That Much N20 At Those Rpms?
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I Figure It Would Be Fine Being You Would Just Have Less Cylinder Pressure The Higher You Go But Some Others Have Told Me Not To Rev Past 6200 With Spray
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with my car i shift at 6500 N/A and at 5800 on spray witch has let to my best times spraying.
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my buddy 1fastws602 hits his with a 200 shot and shifts it at 6850 no problems and this is on stock internals(has been doing this for two years allready ) and still running strong.
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Mine is set to 6800 on the dot. You wanna be careful not to hit the rev limiter with the N20 active, because that will cause detonation
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i always used to stop at 6k on my setup. I had 200rwhp shot and stock internals. Its getting risky at higher rpms.
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Ok But Speifically Why Less RPMS On Spray Than Na?
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I Would Think The Higher You Spin The Less Cylinder Pressure And So Long As You Dont Run Into Other Limitations Ie: Rods, Maincaps From Too Much Rpms Shuoldent You Ride Out Your Power Curve
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Holding your nitrous on through your peak power is OK, it's OVER-REVVING or hitting the rev limiter while the N20 is still activated.

If you normally rev to 6800 I would recomend to continue to do so and just set the N20 to turn of at around 6500. That way IF something happens up top your nitrous will not still be spraying, and when ya shift the N20 will come right back on.
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There are a few things to consider with spray and rpm.

#1 is the engines structural limits

#2 will shifting higher on juice make you faster

#3 taking into account the rev limiter and spraying near the rev limit.

number one really isnt all that different than NA. Cylinder pressure does diminish in upper rpms so with a 200 shot you may only be getting another 100-150 ft lbs of tq (cylinder pressure) at those high rpm. The actual rpm has more of an impact. And that has little to do with the power stroke.

Number 2 is really the issue. Will it make you faster. Well the same gear calculations apply on juice as they do NA. You have to calculate your shift points and what HP or TQ you are making at that rpm and what the HP or tq will be after the shift. Same way ypu might calculate NA. The thing is...with NA its usually better to rev to get the best ET and MPH. With nitrous its not always that way. Thats generally due to the massive TQ spike in the lower rpms and the tapering off of tq with rpm. That generally has the HP curve looking like a table top when graphed. This really means that nitrous is much more forgiving when you short shift. However... a dual stage based on RPM will need to be shifted higher.

And the last thingis the affect of hitting the rev limiter when spraying. Wet or dry its not a good thing. So leave a few hundred RPM between the window switch and the rev limiter.
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Auto Car.. So If I Hit The Rev Limiter I Guess I Got Other Problems

So Basically Just Spray The Car And Look At The Dyno Sheet And Recalc The Shift Points The Came Way I Would In A Na Car....

Thanks For The Help Guys..
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
Auto Car.. So If I Hit The Rev Limiter I Guess I Got Other Problems

So Basically Just Spray The Car And Look At The Dyno Sheet And Recalc The Shift Points The Came Way I Would In A Na Car....

Thanks For The Help Guys..
There are lots of autos out there with MVB's, and will hit the rev limiter if you don't shift.
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