408 ShortBlock is here, pics
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The motor was built to handle 1000hp, that's the gurantee, however, to start, I'll be staying around 700rwhp, we hope. The reason is time and $$ for tranny and rearend.
Anyway, the L19 studs from ARP are a high tensile strength and can torqued higher than stock ARP studs, 90 lbs ft. This equates to 40% more clamping force over stock torque. No real need to go to the expense of 1/2 studs and subseqent machining, however, the L19's aren't exactly cheap. Motor was built to my specs and with a starting 300 multi stage shot in mind (dry of course ).
The nuts and bolts of the short block:
Iron 6.0L Block-new
Callies CompStar Crank-4340 4" stroke
Wiseco Forged Nitrous Pistons-8cc reversed Dome 4.030 bore
Childs & Alberts Moly Rings-1/16, 1/16, 3/16
Callies H-Beam Rods-ARP 2000 7/16 bolts, 6.125
Melling B/B Oil Pump-ported/shimmed
ARP L19 Head studs
ARP Main Studs
GM 6.0 MLS Head Gasket
Clevite 2199H Main bearing
Clevite 663H Cam bearing
Keyed Balancer
Clearances:
Piston to bore-.005
Main brg-.0025
Rod brg-.0022
Ring end gap-.028 top, .021 second
Rod side clear-.022
Deck Height-9.230
Quench-.040 w/.045 gasket
Bob weight-1778 gm
Robert
Anyway, the L19 studs from ARP are a high tensile strength and can torqued higher than stock ARP studs, 90 lbs ft. This equates to 40% more clamping force over stock torque. No real need to go to the expense of 1/2 studs and subseqent machining, however, the L19's aren't exactly cheap. Motor was built to my specs and with a starting 300 multi stage shot in mind (dry of course ).
The nuts and bolts of the short block:
Iron 6.0L Block-new
Callies CompStar Crank-4340 4" stroke
Wiseco Forged Nitrous Pistons-8cc reversed Dome 4.030 bore
Childs & Alberts Moly Rings-1/16, 1/16, 3/16
Callies H-Beam Rods-ARP 2000 7/16 bolts, 6.125
Melling B/B Oil Pump-ported/shimmed
ARP L19 Head studs
ARP Main Studs
GM 6.0 MLS Head Gasket
Clevite 2199H Main bearing
Clevite 663H Cam bearing
Keyed Balancer
Clearances:
Piston to bore-.005
Main brg-.0025
Rod brg-.0022
Ring end gap-.028 top, .021 second
Rod side clear-.022
Deck Height-9.230
Quench-.040 w/.045 gasket
Bob weight-1778 gm
Robert
Last edited by Robert56; 05-25-2007 at 08:59 PM.
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ok, where did you get these studs, and i still need to know if you have to swap over to evans coolant because i am very interested in these. nice motor, i know somebody with almost the exact same setup, and i mean almost exact
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Originally Posted by Robert56
The motor was built to handle 1000hp, that's the gurantee, however, to start, I'll be staying around 700rwhp, we hope. The reason is time and $$ for tranny and rearend.
Anyway, the L19 studs from ARP are a high tensile strength and can torqued higher than stock ARP studs, 90 lbs ft. This equates to 40% more clamping force over stock torque. No real need to go to the expense of 1/2 studs and subseqent machining, however, the L19's aren't exactly cheap. Motor was built to my specs and with a starting 300 multi stage shot in mind (dry of course ).
The nuts and bolts of the short block:
Iron 6.0L Block-new
Callies CompStar Crank-4340 4" stroke
Wiseco Forged Nitrous Pistons-8cc reversed Dome 4.030 bore
Childs & Alberts Moly Rings-1/16, 1/16, 3/16
Callies H-Beam Rods-ARP 2000 7/16 bolts, 6.125
Melling B/B Oil Pump-ported/shimmed
ARP L19 Head studs
ARP Main Studs
GM 6.0 MLS Head Gasket
Clevite 2199H Main bearing
Clevite 663H Cam bearing
Keyed Balancer
Clearances:
Piston to bore-.005
Main brg-.0025
Rod brg-.0022
Ring end gap-.028 top, .021 second
Rod side clear-.022
Deck Height-9.230
Quench-.040 w/.045 gasket
Bob weight-1778 gm
Robert
Anyway, the L19 studs from ARP are a high tensile strength and can torqued higher than stock ARP studs, 90 lbs ft. This equates to 40% more clamping force over stock torque. No real need to go to the expense of 1/2 studs and subseqent machining, however, the L19's aren't exactly cheap. Motor was built to my specs and with a starting 300 multi stage shot in mind (dry of course ).
The nuts and bolts of the short block:
Iron 6.0L Block-new
Callies CompStar Crank-4340 4" stroke
Wiseco Forged Nitrous Pistons-8cc reversed Dome 4.030 bore
Childs & Alberts Moly Rings-1/16, 1/16, 3/16
Callies H-Beam Rods-ARP 2000 7/16 bolts, 6.125
Melling B/B Oil Pump-ported/shimmed
ARP L19 Head studs
ARP Main Studs
GM 6.0 MLS Head Gasket
Clevite 2199H Main bearing
Clevite 663H Cam bearing
Keyed Balancer
Clearances:
Piston to bore-.005
Main brg-.0025
Rod brg-.0022
Ring end gap-.028 top, .021 second
Rod side clear-.022
Deck Height-9.230
Quench-.040 w/.045 gasket
Bob weight-1778 gm
Robert
Whose doing the motor for you??
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The shortblock was built by LME, and that's where the L19 head studs are coming from, they were back ordered. On the coolant, well that's the word, not totally sure on the whole story yet. Will find out though. Turbo Tech in Tacoma is doing the assembly and install, n/a tuning, then I will take it from there. First time in my life that I have had someone else build a motor or do engine work for one of my rides, other than machining, but that's ok, both companies are top notch.
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#25
hmm...
i would really like to go with these head studs if they are that much better because i really dont feel like my heads lifting on the big shot.
so if i went with these, i would need the evans waterpump, and coolant. so then going from normal 270 dollar head studs, it adds up to almost a grand for L19 headstuds and waterpump.
post up what you find out about the coolant, im going to hold off on ordering head studs for a bit i guess.
thanks Robert for the info
i would really like to go with these head studs if they are that much better because i really dont feel like my heads lifting on the big shot.
so if i went with these, i would need the evans waterpump, and coolant. so then going from normal 270 dollar head studs, it adds up to almost a grand for L19 headstuds and waterpump.
post up what you find out about the coolant, im going to hold off on ordering head studs for a bit i guess.
thanks Robert for the info
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L19's work great. And as persons have allready stated the have 40% more clamping force. Im using these head studs with the SCE titan's with O rings in the gaskets. Should hold very well for boosted and sprayed applications. Funny I was @ LME when your block was being prepped
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seems like just making sure the head bolt holes are dry before putting the studs in and youd be ok. I dont think Evans coolant would be necassary. The head bolts dont go through water jackets.
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Originally Posted by smok'nZ
nice so you going l92's rite?
seems like just making sure the head bolt holes are dry before putting the studs in and youd be ok. I dont think Evans coolant would be necassary. The head bolts dont go through water jackets.
What do you guys think on a timing chain? Turbo Tech mech says the LS6 chain is fine and they run it on all the big HP TTi packages. Mine only has 15K miles on it and seems to check out fine, would you run it?
Robert
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Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
seems like just making sure the head bolt holes are dry before putting the studs in and youd be ok. I dont think Evans coolant would be necassary. The head bolts dont go through water jackets.
i just need to find a set of these, i already e-mailed LME to see if they could get them, im not sure where else to look, hell i cant even find a part number for them.
im going with the L92s and want to try to keep them from lifting since they dont have all the meat on there like an aftermarket head
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
I went with the double roller chain and milled down the meliling oil pump case and timing cover.
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robert glad to see your coming back together..
we should both be back to running around the same time of course my nitrous usage has benn severely diminished..
i was wondering the other day.. how many bottles did you put through your car on the 285??
i went 3 i think on the 300
and i can't even begine to count how many on the 200-250
but i had started lifting the head a tad.. i'm wondering if we both ran into the limit of stock parts at about the same time..
congrats
Mike
we should both be back to running around the same time of course my nitrous usage has benn severely diminished..
i was wondering the other day.. how many bottles did you put through your car on the 285??
i went 3 i think on the 300
and i can't even begine to count how many on the 200-250
but i had started lifting the head a tad.. i'm wondering if we both ran into the limit of stock parts at about the same time..
congrats
Mike
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Originally Posted by blacktransam
robert glad to see your coming back together..
we should both be back to running around the same time of course my nitrous usage has benn severely diminished..
i was wondering the other day.. how many bottles did you put through your car on the 285??
i went 3 i think on the 300
and i can't even begine to count how many on the 200-250
but i had started lifting the head a tad.. i'm wondering if we both ran into the limit of stock parts at about the same time..
congrats
Mike
we should both be back to running around the same time of course my nitrous usage has benn severely diminished..
i was wondering the other day.. how many bottles did you put through your car on the 285??
i went 3 i think on the 300
and i can't even begine to count how many on the 200-250
but i had started lifting the head a tad.. i'm wondering if we both ran into the limit of stock parts at about the same time..
congrats
Mike
What is your new set-up again, a 408?
Robert
#36
Originally Posted by Robert56
What brand chain, and how much? Yea, the mech had said something about milling to make a double roller work, but then said no need unless I wanted to go that route.
Robert
Robert
#37
Originally Posted by Robert56
What is your new set-up again, a 408?
Robert
nope i actually went with a forged 347 and one of those hairdryers..
but don't get me wrong the car will still have 2 kits..
congrats on coming back together.. and keep spraying big
Mike
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Originally Posted by Robert56
The shortblock was built by LME, and that's where the L19 head studs are coming from, they were back ordered. On the coolant, well that's the word, not totally sure on the whole story yet. Will find out though. Turbo Tech in Tacoma is doing the assembly and install, n/a tuning, then I will take it from there. First time in my life that I have had someone else build a motor or do engine work for one of my rides, other than machining, but that's ok, both companies are top notch.
Robert
Robert
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
Robert looks like your progress is better than mine right now (416 l92). Hope the details get worked out quickly for you
Originally Posted by BadAssFast
Finally we agree on something useful - LME !!
Robert