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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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What is the best way for me to lower timing?

2006 C6 A6 paddle shift

Curently running 75 shot with 100 octane if I run a little less octane (98) I see KR from 5-6k only in 3rd.

How much timing should I pull if I bump from 75 to 100 and 150?

Sample from 75 shot logfile:

RPM Spd TPS Timing KR MassAir ManifoldAbs Coolant IAT O2B1 B2 LongTrmFuel FuelTrimCell
4388 87 88 25 0 28.23 92 194 100 933 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
4470 88 88 25 0 27.17 93 194 100 929 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
4570 90 88 25 0 29.46 92 194 100 951 920 -0.8 -0.8 12
4665 92 88 25 0 26.15 93 194 100 933 916 -0.8 -0.8 12
4734 93 88 24 0 31.67 92 194 100 924 924 -0.8 -0.8 12
4813 95 88 25 0 32.38 92 194 99 955 946 -0.8 -0.8 12
4900 97 88 24 0 32.75 92 194 100 938 933 -0.8 -0.8 12
5010 99 88 24 0 35.03 92 194 99 924 920 -0.8 -0.8 12
5082 100 88 24 0 33.61 93 194 99 920 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
5145 102 88 24 0 32.26 92 194 99 955 938 -0.8 -0.8 12
5248 103 88 23 0 36.54 92 194 99 938 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
5331 105 88 23 0 37.11 92 196 99 924 911 -0.8 -0.8 12
5392 107 88 24 0 34.11 92 196 99 942 938 -0.8 -0.8 12
5492 108 88 24 0 36.11 93 196 99 946 942 -0.8 -0.8 12
5563 110 88 24 0 38.74 92 196 99 951 942 -0.8 -0.8 12
5628 111 88 24 0 38.28 92 196 99 916 911 -0.8 -0.8 12
5720 113 88 24 0 37.26 92 196 99 929 933 -0.8 -0.8 12
5780 114 88 24 0 37.84 92 196 99 946 933 -0.8 -0.8 12
5854 116 88 24 0 39.52 93 196 99 916 911 -0.8 -0.8 12
5928 117 88 23 0 36.39 92 196 99 907 911 -0.8 -0.8 12
5982 118 88 24 0 35.3 92 196 99 942 924 -0.8 -0.8 12
6080 120 88 24 0 34.77 91 196 100 929 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
6071 120 88 24 0 35.84 93 196 100 942 924 -0.8 -0.8 12
6101 121 88 23 0.4 38.13 92 196 99 942 920 -0.8 -0.8 12
6084 121 88 24 0.4 36.97 93 196 99 938 929 -0.8 -0.8 12
6170 122 88 23 0.3 39.83 92 196 99 924 907 -0.8 -0.8 12

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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I think you pull about 2 degrees per 50hp shot starting at a 100 shot.

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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What style hit, wet or dry?
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert56
What style hit, wet or dry?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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how much kr? could be false also especially on 98 octane. with my current tune, i get kr sometimes but not always on the same type of runs. i tried pulling timing but it didn't help and actually gave me more kr sometimes.


generally on an ls1, i don't think timing needs to be pulled for a 75. don't know about ls2's but it may very similar. kr happens and pulling timing may not be the solution.

what's your afr look like?

could just try taking whatever amount of kr is showing up out, if it helps, try working it back up. on a 75 shot, i would run regualr gas that you use for NA and work the tune for it. i don't think you need the 98-100 to run a 75. and how many runs have you logged with the kr?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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I have run it with less octane then I get KR the less 100 the more KR, dump the 100 in and KR goes away.

I am running higher timing than stock thus the need for the 100.

I have logged 22 passes on the spray and 50+ NA.

My Inovative shows 10.0-10.5 on the spray but not sure I trust it yet
It reads 14.7 at idle and 11.0 on motor I know its rich but it runs great and is faster and makes more RWHP than my friends same car so it cant be too bad???

O2 volts are 910-950 in 3rd sample above but the line looks more like 930's
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