Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

150 shoot on a lt1??????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 02:06 AM
  #1  
speedylexus2006's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: ALWAYS ON THE RUN
Default 150 shoot on a lt1??????

i was wondering if this is the most i can do?
ALL I HAVE IS HEADERS,MALLORY 685,MSD COIL/WIRES AND M/T D/R
what would i have to do if i decide to do a 200??????????
EVERYTHING ELSE IS STOCK

Last edited by speedylexus2006; Jul 24, 2007 at 12:01 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:37 PM
  #2  
oner's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: pharr, texas USA
Default

you'll also need a good tune(to adjust the timing for that 200shot), colder plugs and a little bit more octane.
-good luck
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 11:10 PM
  #3  
krazy4's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 3
From: Yorba Linda, CA
Default

150 shot will work, but not if you have the stock fuel pump.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:03 PM
  #4  
z28_mischief's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default

i'm thinking of running a 100 wet shot on stock motor, motor is running rich to begin with, so i'm thinking i'll be fine....what do you guys think?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:29 PM
  #5  
jakesz28's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 856
Likes: 0
From: iowa
Default

Originally Posted by speedylexus2006
i was wondering if this is the most i can do?
ALL I HAVE IS HEADERS,MALLORY 685,MSD COIL/WIRES AND M/T D/R
what would i have to do if i decide to do a 200??????????
EVERYTHING ELSE IS STOCK

150 is pushing the stock fuel pump. I have seen a guy spray 225 thru his but he ended up melting a piston because of a fuel problem(stock pump). I sprayed mine with 200hp at the wheels.About a month ago but then the rear end let go. So I may be going back to the track Friday.

I would get a Walbro gss307 or gss340 fuel pump. 255lph.

Just remember to pull 2 degrees timing per 50hp with your mallory 685. It wouldn't hurt to pull a little extra for the 200 shot and check the plugs.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:58 AM
  #6  
teezlr's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

I have a stock 93' lt1 Formula, I have the 75 hp jets in right now and have yet to spray it. Can I run 100 hp jets without changing timing or plug gap?
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 04:27 PM
  #7  
oner's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: pharr, texas USA
Default

Originally Posted by teezlr
I have a stock 93' lt1 Formula, I have the 75 hp jets in right now and have yet to spray it. Can I run 100 hp jets without changing timing or plug gap?
You must lower the gap on your plug and use non-platinum plugs like NGK's. Your stock timing is fine on a 100 shot just make sure you have atleast 93 octane in her when you're ready to spray.
-good luck
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:37 PM
  #8  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

I run a 150 shot with an NX kit with stock timing. But I do run higher octane with alittle meth mixed in. So I am sure that helps also have a wally 225lph.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:34 PM
  #9  
donkey mule's Avatar
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
From: Panama City Florida
Default

I run a 150 shot and lowered my timing a couple of degrees as well as gapped my NGK tr6's to .035. My fuel system is stock but I know better than to push it any more!
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:12 AM
  #10  
speedylexus2006's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: ALWAYS ON THE RUN
Default

Ok Thanks Also I Did Run It With A 150 Shoot
Man Its A Huge Difference Off The Line I Cant Wait To Up The Rearend And Lca/panhard In The Next 2weeks
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:16 AM
  #11  
nfa's Avatar
nfa
Teching In
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Default

I ran a 150 shot no problem with a racetronix 255, 94 octane and autolite 104's gapped down to 42 or so. The stock clutch didnt like it too much tho.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:18 PM
  #12  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

Just wondering if anyone has tried a bigger shot than 150hp? I have the fuel upgrades for it. Most of the nitrous safety equipment thinking of running a 175shot then try a 200hp shot just to see if it will handle it.



Derek
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 08:42 AM
  #13  
WhyHelloOfficer's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

Originally Posted by derekderek
Just wondering if anyone has tried a bigger shot than 150hp? I have the fuel upgrades for it. Most of the nitrous safety equipment thinking of running a 175shot then try a 200hp shot just to see if it will handle it.



Derek
Assuming you've got the correct a/f with proper jetting and timing retard, I don't see why you won't be able to spray more than 150. There have been people spraying 175-200 on the factory shortblock but most don't venture that far.

Regardless, that kind of a hit on a tired factory shortblock of an LT1 -- don't expect it to last forever.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:03 AM
  #14  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
Assuming you've got the correct a/f with proper jetting and timing retard, I don't see why you won't be able to spray more than 150. There have been people spraying 175-200 on the factory shortblock but most don't venture that far.

Regardless, that kind of a hit on a tired factory shortblock of an LT1 -- don't expect it to last forever.

Yea I would'nt expect it to last to long with that size of shot. But I figured the rear end will go before the engine would. I am going to Iraq soon so I just want to see what she can handle / Get my thrill's out of her before I leave. But I think with the higher octane and Meth. proper timing it should be ok for a run just got to watch my fuel pressure and what not. I have autolite 103's thinking of going another step colder just for insurance. Any other suggestions?
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:12 AM
  #15  
WhyHelloOfficer's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

Originally Posted by derekderek
Yea I would'nt expect it to last to long with that size of shot. But I figured the rear end will go before the engine would. I am going to Iraq soon so I just want to see what she can handle / Get my thrill's out of her before I leave. But I think with the higher octane and Meth. proper timing it should be ok for a run just got to watch my fuel pressure and what not. I have autolite 103's thinking of going another step colder just for insurance. Any other suggestions?
Double check you have a tight gap (.035") and that your a/f is good on a dyno. The 'recommended jetting' NX gave me for a 100 shot put me a little leaner than I would have liked. Every car is a little different, remember that.

If you plan on running some decent tire, then I'd be concerned for the transmission and rear end. I typically hit the kit after the 60' to try to minimize the stress on the drivetrain.

I usually run a 1/2 & 1/2 100/93 Mix when I spray at the track to be safe, along with three degrees pulled for the 100 shot. If you're going for broke, then who cares. Just sit down, shut up, and hold on. My setup is very conservative because I need my shortblock to survive another four semesters of college

God speed to you in Iraq. Everything you and our armed forces do is greatly appreciated
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:33 AM
  #16  
1997compT/A's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: Overland Park, KS
Default

JakesZ28, you previously said you had been spraying a 150 shot on stock timing but now you're advising to pull 2 degrees for every 50hp?
I'm going to spray a 125 shot (flywheel) and needed to know if I should be pulling timing from my stock setup or not.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:05 PM
  #17  
96lt1m6's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 3
From: LA$ VEGA$
Default

255 lph pump,150NX hit no timing retard on 93 octane.no problems
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 04:34 PM
  #18  
Ray@Nitrous Outlet
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I would never suggest spraying more than 150 on a stock motor...can you yes but I would not. This is for many different reasons.

1) Flow characteristics of the stock manifold starts to have distribution issues above 150
2) The stock pistons are not going to enjoy the cylinder pressure, and any slight issue is going to have major consequences.
3) the factory fuel system was not designed to support that much power.

To run up to 200 shot on a stock LT1, would require upgrading the fuel pump, monitoring AF, and checking the plugs to verify distribution.

The 1-2* per 50hp rule for timing is just a base starting point. For a 200 shot I would pull 8-10* and monitor knock and the plugs while slowly adding timing back in. Most nitrous kits are jetted for stock timing and fuel pressure. Any changes you make to the vehicle might require adjustments to the jetting to maintain a safe AF.

Last but not least you must be willing to pick up the pieces when it breaks.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:44 PM
  #19  
jakesz28's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 856
Likes: 0
From: iowa
Default

Originally Posted by 1997compT/A
JakesZ28, you previously said you had been spraying a 150 shot on stock timing but now you're advising to pull 2 degrees for every 50hp?
I'm going to spray a 125 shot (flywheel) and needed to know if I should be pulling timing from my stock setup or not.

On my car I sprayed about 60 to 70 passes on a 150 shot with stock timing and no noticable problems. But when I hooked up the mallery 685 I pulled some timing and actually picked up a little MPH. So I must have had some knock and the computer pulled extra timing to get rid of it.
I have currently stopped the computer from pulling timing at WOT. So I pull 4* for a 150 shot and my timing is advanced some in the tune.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:00 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE