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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Well I'm looking into getting a wet kit but need help on deciding which one to get. I'm debating between the Nitrous Outlet kit for the LT1 and 1 of the kits from HSW.
Nitrous Outlet: http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=2805

HSW: http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...cat=364&page=1

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...cat=364&page=1

The difference between the 2 HSW kits is that 1 is single nozzle and one is dual nozzle. I don't plan on ever spraying over 150 shot so I don't know how many nozzles I need? This will be going on my daily driver in my sig with the mods listed. I only want to spray at the track but I won't lie because I know I'll use it on the street too. But street racing for me is few and far between.

I really like the Nitrous Outlet kit because it has the plate system! I just don't know if I want to spend $300 more for that piece because they seem to come with about the same things besides the plate that HSW doesn't have. But I kinda like the HSW kit because with the extra $300 I could start buying accessories for the kit. Also from what I have seen both places have awesome customer service.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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I like the distribution pattern the Nitrous Outlet plate provides, plus the Nitrous Outlet kit also comes with larger solenoids.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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here is a brief rundown on the differences....

Nitrous Outlet 00-10000 $499_________HSW Sudden Impact $359
10# Bottle w/2 pressure ports_________10# bottle w/1 pressure port
.125 orifice nitrous solenoid (400+hp)___.078 orifice nitrous solenoid (200hp)
.187 orifice fuel solenoid (400+hp)______.125 orifice fuel solenoid (200hp)
14 jets 35-50-100-150 w/extra fuel jets__8 jets 75-100-125-150
24" solenoid to nozzle lines_____________15" solenoid to nozzle lines
18" fuel feed line______________________20" fuel feed line
16' nitrous feed line___________________16' nitrous feed line
no pressure gauge ($25 extra)__________nitrous pressure gauge
Both kits have all needed electrical and hardware parts needed to install the kit.

This is comparing our single nozzle to the HSW Sudden Impact Single nozzle...all information was gathered from the HSW website, if anything is posted incorrectly I will edit my post.

There is also no need for a dual nozzle unless you like the look. The plate kit will give you a much cleaner looking install over a nozzle. A plate will also give you better atomization due to having 10 distribution ports compared to 1 in the nozzle. This will help will help with distribution.

Here is a another good thread to read that will help you make an accurate comparison...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/771084-did-you-know-picking-n20-system.html

Please let me know if you have any other questions.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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you cant go wrong with either
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Facts only in this thread, keep it clean!!!! no bad mouthing, i can see it already, so just a warning befor it happens. thanks.



now for my input.
either nozle kit im going to say you cant go wrong. i personaly like a plate kit over a single or dual nozle, and either plate kit you cant go wrong.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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What is the difference between the $499 kit you posted and the $699 kit I posted? Is it just the TB plate that accounts for the $200 extra?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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If you won't be going over a 150 shot the Sudden Impact kits are hard to beat. For your application I would choose the single nozzle kit. Another option would be our Brute Force kit that includes larger solenoids and color choices on the fittings and lines. Let me know if you have any questions on either.

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Originally Posted by porksoda
Well I'm looking into getting a wet kit but need help on deciding which one to get. I'm debating between the Nitrous Outlet kit for the LT1 and 1 of the kits from HSW.
Nitrous Outlet: http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=2805

HSW: http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...cat=364&page=1

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...cat=364&page=1

The difference between the 2 HSW kits is that 1 is single nozzle and one is dual nozzle. I don't plan on ever spraying over 150 shot so I don't know how many nozzles I need? This will be going on my daily driver in my sig with the mods listed. I only want to spray at the track but I won't lie because I know I'll use it on the street too. But street racing for me is few and far between.

I really like the Nitrous Outlet kit because it has the plate system! I just don't know if I want to spend $300 more for that piece because they seem to come with about the same things besides the plate that HSW doesn't have. But I kinda like the HSW kit because with the extra $300 I could start buying accessories for the kit. Also from what I have seen both places have awesome customer service.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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What is the difference between the $499 kit you posted and the $699 kit I posted? Is it just the TB plate that accounts for the $200 extra?
yes the plate is the only difference
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Good list Ray, but why do apples to oranges compare and not an apples to apples? The Sudden Impact kits are great bang for the buck, but for the user looking for a larger shot and being able to do some customization of the color scheme the Brute Force kits are the way to go!

Nitrous Outlet 00-10000 $499________HSW Brute Force Single Nozzle $474.99

10# Bottle w/2 pressure ports_________10# bottle w/1 pressure port

.125 orifice nitrous solenoid (400+hp)__.125 orifice nitrous solenoid bottom exit w/purge port (400+hp)


.187 orifice fuel solenoid (400+hp)______.250 orifice fuel solenoid bottom exit (400+hp)

14 jets 35-50-100-150 w/extra fuel jets__8 jets 100-150-200-250

24" solenoid to nozzle lines_____________20" solenoid to nozzle lines (-4 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

18" fuel feed line______________________20" fuel feed line (-4 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

16' nitrous feed line___________________16' nitrous feed line (-6 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

no pressure gauge ($25 extra)__________nitrous pressure gauge

Both kits have all needed electrical and hardware parts needed to install the kit.


Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
here is a brief rundown on the differences....

Nitrous Outlet 00-10000 $499_________HSW Sudden Impact $359
10# Bottle w/2 pressure ports_________10# bottle w/1 pressure port
.125 orifice nitrous solenoid (400+hp)___.078 orifice nitrous solenoid (200hp)
.187 orifice fuel solenoid (400+hp)______.125 orifice fuel solenoid (200hp)
14 jets 35-50-100-150 w/extra fuel jets__8 jets 75-100-125-150
24" solenoid to nozzle lines_____________15" solenoid to nozzle lines
18" fuel feed line______________________20" fuel feed line
16' nitrous feed line___________________16' nitrous feed line
no pressure gauge ($25 extra)__________nitrous pressure gauge
Both kits have all needed electrical and hardware parts needed to install the kit.

This is comparing our single nozzle to the HSW Sudden Impact Single nozzle...all information was gathered from the HSW website, if anything is posted incorrectly I will edit my post.

There is also no need for a dual nozzle unless you like the look. The plate kit will give you a much cleaner looking install over a nozzle. A plate will also give you better atomization due to having 10 distribution ports compared to 1 in the nozzle. This will help will help with distribution.

Here is a another good thread to read that will help you make an accurate comparison...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=771084

Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Ray
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@HSW
Good list Ray, but why do apples to oranges compare and not an apples to apples? The Sudden Impact kits are great bang for the buck, but for the user looking for a larger shot and being able to do some customization of the color scheme the Brute Force kits are the way to go!

Nitrous Outlet 00-10000 $499________HSW Brute Force Single Nozzle $474.99

10# Bottle w/2 pressure ports_________10# bottle w/1 pressure port

.125 orifice nitrous solenoid (400+hp)__.125 orifice nitrous solenoid bottom exit w/purge port (400+hp)


.187 orifice fuel solenoid (400+hp)______.250 orifice fuel solenoid bottom exit (400+hp)

14 jets 35-50-100-150 w/extra fuel jets__8 jets 100-150-200-250

24" solenoid to nozzle lines_____________20" solenoid to nozzle lines (-4 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

18" fuel feed line______________________20" fuel feed line (-4 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

16' nitrous feed line___________________16' nitrous feed line (-6 hose, you choose the color of hose & AN fittings)

no pressure gauge ($25 extra)__________nitrous pressure gauge

Both kits have all needed electrical and hardware parts needed to install the kit.
That seems like a better comparison.

I have only used the Nitrous Outlet in the past (6 kits on 3 of my own cars) and their service is always top notch, but I do like some of the HSW products. I just haven't gotten around to trying any of them.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@HSW
Good list Ray, but why do apples to oranges compare and not an apples to apples? The Sudden Impact kits are great bang for the buck, but for the user looking for a larger shot and being able to do some customization of the color scheme the Brute Force kits are the way to go!
I used the SI as that is what the OP had linked to....
I agree the BF line is more direct comparison.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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I wasn't trying to start an argument or anything I just want opinions on these 2 sets because thats what I'm trying to decide between.

Does HSW offer a plate system for the LT1? Thats the only thing thats making me lean toward the Nitrous Outlet system but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $300 extra for it when ever I could use that to get accessories.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Ray and Matt. You should also list the flow, orfice size and design of the bottle valves. There are pretty good differences there as well.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by porksoda
I wasn't trying to start an argument or anything I just want opinions on these 2 sets because thats what I'm trying to decide between.

Does HSW offer a plate system for the LT1? Thats the only thing thats making me lean toward the Nitrous Outlet system but I don't know if I'm willing to spend $300 extra for it when ever I could use that to get accessories.
At the HP level you are looking for a single nozzle versus the plate will end up doing the same job. The plate will distribute alittle better to help attomize into the front runners do to the plates design. The plate will also give a much cleaner install than a universal nozzle. You will have to decide if it is worth the cost difference.

Either way we have both systems in stock and we can normaly ship the same day the order is placed.. We also have 4 tech lines incase you need tech help during your install or tunning process. If you call during store hours you will get a sales/tech representive and recieve help at the time you call.

Let us know if we can help in anyway.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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im a fan of harris speed works my personal experience with their products, quality, performance and service have always been above and beyond my expectations. good luck with what ever kit you choose im sure youll be addicted after the first spray
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Imo, you really can't go wrong with either company. also, i don't think it really has ever been proved that the plates give better distribution, more sales hype than fact. If ya want to talk facts, it is the back cylinders that go lean and in particular #7, and that's with any kit outside of a properly tunes DP kit. I think a dual nozzle is a little better than single, why, because often times the single nozzle is off to one side and only protuding into the air path way a slight bit, so a dual nozzle will work better. Now, if your going for ultimate looks, then the plate has my vote, but if your on a budget, I would opt for the dual nozzle kits, and HSW being a little bit better bargain and equal quality. These are my opinions/facts and not influenced by any one or any company.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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I have the SI dual nozzle kit spraying a 200 shot through it. If I had to do it all over again I would buy Dave's Plate, but I was being a cheap bastard working on a tight budget. The SI kit is a great kit, but it really looks like a mess under the hood with the lines and wires going everywhere.

Both companies offer great tech support. Any questions that I had for Matt were quickly and accurately answered.

All being said I would go with Dave's Plate if I had to do it all over again.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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I have used Nitrous Outlet and HSW for nitrous and fueling system components for my Vette, very happy with both of them. You can't go wrong with either. Call them up, talk to them and make the decision on your goals and budget.

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I've ordered various things from both, can't go wrong either way.

I'll tell you I did get the plate kit from Dave's though, its a damn sexy piece. I can't wait to get it in the car.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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yeah man u cant go wrong they are both great, im running a hsw with a plate and love it
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