I have finished reading the whole wet vs dry... Yeah specialized..I am going dry for sure.. I will pop off with wet when I have more money to dump and start all the additions, and the wide band, and all the monitoring hardware.....

But yeah... So I am going to go dry.. not going to play with wet right now...
My wife would kick my *** if I destroyed my car.... LOL....

but thanks for all the input guys...
n2o has been ordered.... LOL... cant wait to hit ennis up.. woohoo...
and if anyone is wondering why I want the n2o.... take a look at the video on my fquick page... My buddies. shelby csx shadow wooping my ***..
he runs slicks, very big turbo, slap shift 3 speed use to be auto transmission.

here is link...

http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=3274

 

Dont forget your injectors and tuning with your dry kit.

 

I have 28lb injectors on the car now...factory 28lb injectors..
you think I need something bigger for 100 shot for now???
I was seeing the 100 shot would be the most to go with these injectors...

 

What other mods do you have done? I wouldnt spray anything over say 50 shot on a internally mod'd car (like cam/heads) and no more than probably 75 on a full bolt-on car. I did 125 on a lid/catback'd car and it loved it, then stepped down to 100 with lt's, lid, catback, ported tb, ory.

 

My car is bone stock.. Nothing done.. not even Lid.....
I have looked into the lid alot, heard alot about this and that about doing the lid, but out at the track last week, I met quite a few guys with camaros, no lids done, but n2o and they were running awsome...

So basically this will be a shot into a bone stock camaro.
but this is the kit I got.
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=118

 

Ahhh the internet...where everyone knows everything.

 

LOL, yes this is the internet where everybody knows everything that is good for everyones car....
I think the same thing some days when I am sitting here reading and what not. I like to take all the opinions, then kind of blend them all, and go with it.

 

well if your running a dry kit on a stock motor, one of the first things to do is to monitor your air fuel ratio, start off with a small shot like a 50 or 75, key things to watch while tuning it in would be your injector duty cycle, being you have 28's you can handle alil more dry nitrous since the injectors are bigger than 26's. another thing you can monitor is your fuel pressure with a guage to see if your pressure is dropping off with the 50-75shot, this will be a sign to see if the stock pump can handle the extra fuel increase using the dry nitrous. by watching your injector duty cycle you can see if the injectors can actully handle the 50-75shot. if all falls into place then slowly work up to a bigger jet size 100 thru 150. this way you can make sure that your injectors are up to par, that your pump can keep up with what shot your spraying, and that your air fuel ratio is staying where you want it to be. of course as everyone else has said, an upgraded 255 intake pump and some bigger injectors will be a safe way when going up on the nitrous jettings, but you can tune nitrous around the stock shortblock and stock setup, including stock injectors and fuel pump. just keep a close eye on the above items, once you have the supporting mods for more nitrous, then it is a good time to increase your jet sizing. this way you can be safe with nitrous and enjoy it for a longer period of time. hope this helps ya out some. BirdOnNos

P.S. on my stock setup years ago, i was running stock injectors 28's and stock pump and hitting the car with a 150 dry shot, but again this was within the limits above, i kept a close eye on all the factors above, when i tore the motor down to forge it the pistons looked great, its all in how you tune and monitor your setup for the mods you have.

 

Perfect, and yes this will help me.. Thanks for putting your input down for me...
I am going to start with the 50 shot, and work my way up from there....
So I will tune as I go... or something like that....
anyways.. thanks.

 

no problem thats what the forums are for, i know i learned alot from the boards and picked up alot myself with time after reading and reading and more reading.

 

That is exactly what I did.. Read everything, and put a few things together to get better answers.. Plus I have a few buds that have n2o, so I believe I am almost up to par with what to do...

I will have a verdict in 2 weeks as to what this does for me...
the link below... well that is why I have my n2o now....
because my buddy is not going to woop me again with his turbo charged shadow.. (shelby csx shadow) but it is a shadow.....

http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=3274

LOL...

 

I am not trying to start anything but man I think you need to read up more and start with some simple bolt ons first.

I have ran nitrous on my old mustang, my firebird now, my harley, and my quad. To this day I still learn something new everytime I read up about nitrous. If ran right it can be an easy and safe way to add LOTS of power, but if you REALLY don't know what your doing, it is an easy way to hurt your car.

From reading some of the stuff you stated, it sounds like you have a Auto car. If you are running a nitrous on an auto car I would not run the kit without a FPSS and a window switch. Also, even though you are only running a 100 shot, I would retard the timing just to be safe, so you would need a timing tuner.

Also you said you are going to tune it yourself. What are you going to tune it with? Tuning is also another thing that if you do not know what you are doing you can EASILY mess something up.

100 dollars + on a lid may not seem that worthy right now to gain 10 HP when you can get a 350 dollar nitrous kit and gain close to 100. But, simple bolt ons such as a lid is an easy way to gain a few extra ponies and have your car run a little better. Also, it is a great platform to start with when you do decide to do a heads and cam swap. If the factory system was really that great they would not have out aftermarket lids and almost every LS1 owner would not have one on their car.

I'm not trying to put you down in anyway, I just don't want to see you blow up your car and then come back on here asking what to do next. I would rather you have a fast reliable car just like all the rest of us!!

 

dopdbrd... thanks for the input... I will have a FPSS... as for the window switch, I will not do.. I am not going to hit until after 45 mph and only above 3 grand....
I am not wanting to get out there and run 11's and 12's.. I want a fast 13.1, and I am not trying to blow anything up.. As for the tuning, I have a few buds that have been tuning for quite a few years.

As for tuning, I am going to use hptuners for my software tune... I will have a wide band and all my set up.. As for the lid, I hear what everyone says about them, but man, I have seen a few dynos that there is nothing after the lid was done..
dyno before lid. 330, dyno after lid 330... 100 dollars for some nice looks.. well not for me.. especially when I am putting money towards things that are mattering now.

I will get a lid soon, but when you look at the price for that lid, I will wait a few more till the darn thing drops....

And anything you were putting I am not taking as bashing.. I dont have experience in n2o, but if you have common sense, which I see alot of peeps on here dont have, you will understand gas, combustion, and what you can and cant do and what n2o. and what n2o does to your car when you inject it.

I know there is some flow restriction on the factory air lid..
and as I said I will eventually get a lid, but not in my budget right now.
budget consisted of n2o kit, fpss, blow off and all that good stuff.

And Yes I do have an auto car... and that is why after talking with a few peeps who also run auto, I will not have WOT/RPM switch... dont need my n2o hitting in every gear. Only 3rd right now, until I do a few things to transmission. Then I will want a hit in every gear. tranny, torque bars, slicks, and WOT switch at the same time.

 

Well I'm glad you have someone to help you tune it that is familar with the tuning software. That will makes things sooo much easier. If you only hit the nitrous in 3rd gear you are only going to be spraying maybe the last 1/8 mile or less on the track aren't you?

I know you are worried about damaging your tranny with the nitrous. But, this is just a suggestion, why not wire up a WOT switch, window switch, and a push button. You would never want to spray the nitrous when your not at WOT so if you had a WOT switch you would make sure that won't happen. Also, with a window switch, you can set it for 3000 RPM or higher (never spray below that) and then have it kick off at 5400 if you shifted at 5600 so that way whenever your tranny is shifting you will not be spraying. This is why lots of people run a window switch on a auto car because it will help extend the life of your tranny since you will not be spraying it between shifts.

Then if you had a push button switch wired in sequence, nothing would happen until you pushed that button, so you could spray it whenever you wanted to in any gear as long as you were at WOT and as long as you were in the preset RPM range.

Just a few suggestions that you might think about.

BTW, be ready to start filling that bottle every week, everytime I put the juice to something, I am addicted for at least two weeks!!! HAHA

 

Yes, I am planning on hitting on the last part of the run. WOT....
As for the tuning stuff, yeah I am glad I know peeps who do this and understand, because they are having to teach me on what does what, and if you do this what it will do to the car.

But about your comment, at the track, how long will an average 10lb bottle last me.
That is that I spray at the end like I am planning????

 

If you are only running a 100 shot and you are spraying it the very last part of the track, I would easily say you could get 10+ runs out of it.

I spray a 150 shot OFF THE LINE and run it the whole track and I got a good solid 4 passes on it at the track and still ran it a few more times on the street before the bottle went empty.

 

This thread got funny.

 

why's that?

 

This thread is funny...Giant run on sentences.

 

I throw whatever into my forum posts most of the time.
I am not writing for school, or an S.A.
writing to find information. dont care about my run on's.
woohoo....