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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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I know it sounds like a alot with a stock bottom end but other people are doing it and thought I would try it for myself. I'm really trying to get my stock bottom end SS into the 9's. So for now I'm not worried about a bottom end, because I allready know that I'll be needing one soon. Right now I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible on my situation and LS1 tech is the place to do it! So anybody else out there with info. on what I'm asking for have any more opinions please fill me in!
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 fast 2000
I know it sounds like a alot with a stock bottom end but other people are doing it and thought I would try it for myself. I'm really trying to get my stock bottom end SS into the 9's. So for now I'm not worried about a bottom end, because I allready know that I'll be needing one soon. Right now I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible on my situation and LS1 tech is the place to do it! So anybody else out there with info. on what I'm asking for have any more opinions please fill me in!
ya i got some info for you u better spray 3 kits bitch, cus if u think those were the big pills last time haha ill show u a 9 sec pass
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:24 AM
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i have never had a 2 bottle set up. I dont see the need in it, ive ran a 300 shot and it never got below 950-1000 PSI after a few 1/4 mile passes with a bottle heater. AND IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE!
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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That 2 bottle thing is crap, I've seen nitrous cars that consume 3.5 to 4 lbs of nitrous in a single 1/4 run get away with a single bottle and have no problems at all, 10 lb bottle.

A little pressure loss at the top might mean it goes a touch rich, which if you talk to experienced racers will tell you that little bit sometimes can save parts from burning up.

I wouldn't look at putting 2 bottles in the car unless you're spraying over 600 hp of nitrous, I know for a fact you can run 500 hp with a single bottle, but that's about the limit of what the bottle valve can flow, which is the only reason I would go to a 2 bottle setup.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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What kind of mph gains were folks seeing. I'd think if I sprayed 300 I'd expect to see an increase of at least 25mph on my car.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 fast 2000
I know it sounds like a alot with a stock bottom end but other people are doing it and thought I would try it for myself. I'm really trying to get my stock bottom end SS into the 9's. So for now I'm not worried about a bottom end, because I allready know that I'll be needing one soon. Right now I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible on my situation and LS1 tech is the place to do it! So anybody else out there with info. on what I'm asking for have any more opinions please fill me in!
A solid stock Long block can sell for a 1000+ bucks, so i would consider doing it before then. If you dont care, then spray the crap out of it.

As long as you have a high flowing valve on your bottle you will be fine with just one.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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I was getting 2-3 runs on a 200 shot w/a single 10# bottle...didn't start seeing pressure drop issues until the 3-4th run.

Like Mike said...as long as you have a good valve, and nitrous volume available...a single bottle will flow quite well.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Dont even try it.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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could you just use a nano system to take care of the pressure loss?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@HSW
with a safe tune you can run a 225 shot for extended periods of time. i would definitly use a progressive controller on that size of a shot.
Yep, I second that opinion. I went from 200 to 225 and pulled an extra 2 degrees out from 3400-rpm and up just to be on the safe side. I also use an FJO Controller. I ramp the first stage up to 150 through first and second gears utilizing the RPM and TPS voltage for activation. I then override the first stage with the second when I get to third gear with a manual Moroso button on a cord. Both stages utilize the same set of solenoids. Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by howellusn
could you just use a nano system to take care of the pressure loss?
Absolutly, if you have the money it would definitly be worth it
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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ya i got some info for you u better spray 3 kits bitch, cus if u think those were the big pills last time haha ill show u a 9 sec pass
LMAO at your post! I know excatly what you sprayed, because your buddies ran back and told me I warned you all about the 10 second pass and now I'm warning you about the 9 second pass. GET READY TO GET DRUG.........with less effort again
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
What kind of mph gains were folks seeing. I'd think if I sprayed 300 I'd expect to see an increase of at least 25mph on my car.
Maybe more than that, because I seen a 12mph gain just from a 100 shot ( of course the bottle psi was sitting at a healthy 1200 ).
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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So basicaly what I am getting is the fact that I need a N2o controller, maybe some bigger flowing selenoids, maybe a second bottle, pull some timming, short block on the side, go from 4an to 6an lines, high flowing valve, and set of brass ***** to go with that order. Did I miss anything? Anything else I need to know?
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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ya i got some info for you u better spray 3 kits bitch, cus if u think those were the big pills last time haha ill show u a 9 sec pass
I want to see a video of the rematch!
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
What kind of mph gains were folks seeing. I'd think if I sprayed 300 I'd expect to see an increase of at least 25mph on my car.
A 150 shot got me a solid 15 mph, I'd think doubling the nitrous would add more then 10 more mph... probably never hook it off the line though
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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225 shot, omg on stock LS1 motor? how about 150 on stock LT1 motor that will go into my B2000.
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My old rule of thumb was that I hoped to pick up 80% of the shot in the form of mph, so 150 shot = like 12-13mph. So if i wacked a car with 225 I'd hope to pick up 20mph.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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So you getting ready for the next track day i take it. I am too, just i will be running my new setup for the first time probably. I am still in the process of getting everything i need. Its a Nitro Daves plate system and i will be running the 150 shot at sdr. Hoping to see some 10's. Lookin foward too seeing my clone run again!
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
I tried running a 200 shot off one bottle, and it nosed over on the top end. The bottle couldn't keep up with the demand.
6A line and 1000psi wont nose over due to one bottle
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