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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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Nitrous Outlet has EXCELLENT customer service. I had some issues with a part i ordered from them and they warrantied it no problem. I would definitely do business with them again and would recommend them to anyone.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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And before this turns into another bashing thread...I run HSW parts and will be ordering more from them, but it does seem to be true as to...well its kinda hard to explain, they can just be difficult to work with.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
-150 shot max on the conversion kit plate, 200 shot max on the "big" plate

-lean spikes resulting from the perimeter spray design.
So, what is the Nitrous Outlet plate? Sure seems like a perimeter spray design to me.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Guys, my apologies. We simply do not offer the larger plate as a conversion kit for the simple reason that it was designed as a kit. When running large shots we have found that it is easier to avoid potential problems caused by people piecing a kit together by providing a complete kit. I understand that this doesn’t work for some of you but this was the only way we could find a suitable solution for this problem. Our plates were designed for a specific function and not to exceed that function for the sole purpose of advertising. If you’re looking for extremely large shots, I simply do not recommend the use of a single entry point. I don’t believe in making a prayer for even distribution prior to each run and I will not pass that belief onto our customers. I would rather sleep well at night by giving sound advice as to what is a safe level of hp to induct at the throttle body rather than lying to you and keeping my fingers crossed that your motor is going to keep together.

The sudden impact line of kits are an excellent choice for the street/weekend warrior category while the Brute Force line would be the choice for those wanting more. If you are unsure as to which category you fall into, please give us a call instead of guessing or taking someone else’s advice.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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If the car made the power on the 150 shot but was running lean it is something with the fuel supply. We would be more then happy to flow the fuel portion of your plate, but we would need the fuel solenoid that you are using to do so.

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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
If it's a conversion kit it is probably the small plate, but it should be fine for a dry hit.

My car made the power on a 150 shot, which tells me the nitrous is being supplied, but we could not get the a/f anywhere close which is telling me the fuel isnt flowing as well as the n2o.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSlow02
And before this turns into another bashing thread...I run HSW parts and will be ordering more from them, but it does seem to be true as to...well its kinda hard to explain, they can just be difficult to work with.

Please do not let anything deter you from calling us and asking any of your technical questions. That's why we are here.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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How can you tell the difference between the 2 plates? I know several people that have bought these kits second hand and are unaware that you have 2 90mm plates. Thanks.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PAGregSS
So, what is the Nitrous Outlet plate? Sure seems like a perimeter spray design to me.
No, actually it just has 8 orifices each for fuel and nitrous that spray from the top creating a "wall"

By "perimeter" i meant around the plate 360 degrees in case you didnt understand that part.

Here is a video demonstrating what I mean http://www.retrorelics.net/jim/Board...7s%20Plate.wmv

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt@HSW
If the car made the power on the 150 shot but was running lean it is something with the fuel supply. We would be more then happy to flow the fuel portion of your plate, but we would need the fuel solenoid that you are using to do so.

Matt
I agree that it is fuel supply, and Ive also eliminated the pump as the problem by tuning the car to add the fuel via the injectors and that worked flawlessly.

I'd like to take you up on this offer though, can you pm me with anymore directions I will need? Thanks for the help
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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PM Sent.

Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
I agree that it is fuel supply, and Ive also eliminated the pump as the problem by tuning the car to add the fuel via the injectors and that worked flawlessly.

I'd like to take you up on this offer though, can you pm me with anymore directions I will need? Thanks for the help
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by themailman
How can you tell the difference between the 2 plates? I know several people that have bought these kits second hand and are unaware that you have 2 90mm plates. Thanks.
Easiest way is to send us the original purchaser's name so we can verify in our system as to what was purchased or you can send it in to us to verify internal dimensions. Thanks!

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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your dry plate kit. what max hp does that support?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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I don't mean to jump in here with useless information but the plate that Nitrous Outlet offers for the LT1 is a perimeter spraying plate. It has holes all around the internal ring and it sprays across the air flow path. Obviously I do not fabricate these plates so there could be something I don't know between the intake manifolds which is why they offer different spraying methods. I just know that the Nitrous Outlet plate sprays that way for the LT1 and the LS1 plate sprays a wall like the vid you posted. I believe the LS1 HSW plate has a perimeter spray pattern also? I just wish they made a LT1 plate!
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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youre right, maybe that's what PAGregss meant. I have no experience with the LT1 plates.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bad6as
your dry plate kit. what max hp does that support?

The flow will well exceed 300hp.

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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You are right Robert (porksoda), the HSW LS1 plate is a perimeter spray design. I've used both the HSW and the NO plate up to a 150 wet with no issues from either one. I have dealt with both companies on a personal level, not just as SDPC, and I've also only had good customer experiences with both companies in the times that I have dealt with them. Both a really helpful with tech support, and I would highly recommend either one of them. We stock HSW systems and accessories and I have been known to hit up Dave for some of his accessories as well. I hate to see either company put above the other because they both help me and my customers out very well!
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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[QUOTE=Nick@HSW;9754686] I don’t believe in making a prayer for even distribution prior to each run and I will not pass that belief onto our customers. I would rather sleep well at night by giving sound advice as to what is a safe level of hp to induct at the throttle body rather than lying to you and keeping my fingers crossed that your motor is going to keep together.
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Ok so are you saying here that you are unable to safely spray 200+ through a T/B plate and if so, is that not like saying N20 Dave must not sleep well at night, and he is living on a prayer that motors he sells his plates to dont blow up, I have spoke with Dave, and I tried calling you but spoke with Matt, Dave claims NO ISSUES with his plate spraying 200+ safely. I know you may think I am trying to start another pissing match with HSW, but the proof is on the site. A plate is a plate, I just think you guys are trying to push you direct port kits, If I am not mistaken there are numorus companys claiming 200+ easyly with a plate. I will hop on over and try Daves plate on the 200 and 250shot and see how it works out, another thing, about every Mfg. has the parts to there kits aval. to there customers. Like I told Matt if I wanted to try the Brute Plate, I fully understand you are not responsable, just sell the Dam thing. But hay, just my opinion again.
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Originally Posted by SuperSlow02
And before this turns into another bashing thread...I run HSW parts and will be ordering more from them, but it does seem to be true as to...well its kinda hard to explain, they can just be difficult to work with.
Same here we run the HSW kit on one of our cars, and it seems to work well so far, I have had some pissing issues with HSW in the past week or so, but still wanted to purchase, well actually wanted some info on there plates, the differances between the 2 (Sudden Impact and Brute Force) yes I did get a call back but honestly felt I only got a portion of the info I wanted, I know these guys now every inch/orfice size etc of there products, I just dont think they want to give ALL ther info out Sometimes even in the past before I had any issues with them, I felt when I was speaking to them, it was like they were going out of there way, and doing you a favor by talking to you.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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I sprayed a 350 with a wet plate with no troubles?
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OldskoolRcr
Same here we run the HSW kit on one of our cars, and it seems to work well so far, I have had some pissing issues with HSW in the past week or so, but still wanted to purchase, well actually wanted some info on there plates, the differances between the 2 (Sudden Impact and Brute Force) yes I did get a call back but honestly felt I only got a portion of the info I wanted, I know these guys now every inch/orfice size etc of there products, I just dont think they want to give ALL ther info out Sometimes even in the past before I had any issues with them, I felt when I was speaking to them, it was like they were going out of there way, and doing you a favor by talking to you.
Honestly, with all the **** talking you've done about them, you're lucky they even talk to you at all.
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