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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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I have a 2000 Ws6 trans am. i just got a zex 75 shot wet nitrous kit. What do i need to make this setup safe and reliable. currently im running ngk tr55 plugs, stock tune. i dont think it came with a purge. can i run a stock tune. the insructions say i need to retard the timing 5 degrees. if so how do you do this procees. any other advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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DONT RUN THAT CAR WITH A STOCK TUNE!!A tune is key with nitrous, bottom line
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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I dont know about taking 5* out as it sounds a little on teh drastic side, but maybe 1* or 2* would be more like it.

You can either pull the timing out via EFILive (tuning software) or get a timing tuner from one of the vendors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you want to run it even safer get a wideband, fuel safety cutoff switch and colder plugs as well.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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No need to do anything. Just get some good fuel and spray the crap out of. PERIOD!!! Anything else is LIES. LS1gummi iS full OF SH%T!!!! My stock 98 with 175 shop just has plugs and good fuel. NO TUNE! Wideband is nice to see what is happening, but will not hurt anything. Have Fun.

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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No need to do anything. Just get some good fuel and spray the crap out of. PERIOD!!! Anything else is LIES. LS1gummi iS full OF SH%T!!!! My stock 98 with 175 shop just has plugs and good fuel. NO TUNE! Wideband is nice to see what is happening, but will not hurt anything. Have Fun.

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So, your saying you are not pulling any timing on a 175 shot???
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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NONE!!!! Sorry should say shot not shop. .62 jet. Have seen a few degrees knock retard on 1-2 shift on a few passes. Call Mike Wood at Nitrous Express if you don't believe it!
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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I dont need to call anyone...

The guy said "safe and reliable"... I dont think running a 175 shot with full timing is being safe or reliable.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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HE SAID 75!!! I run 175. Safe enough for me. Sorry!! Have not hurt mine yet. 75 is a joke. I would not even run race fuel or colder plugs.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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I would throw in a colder plug and run a timing tuner.... I hope you are saving for a new motor, the rate your going it will be sooner then later.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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I would throw in a colder plug and run a timing tuner.... I hope you are saving for a new motor, the rate your going it will be sooner then later.


I'll post up if I pop it Spray god. Nothing wrong with being safe, but 75 shot give me a brake. You don't understand all you think you know about nitrous. Why pull timing on 75 please explain. . . Enlighten me please?
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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I'll post up if I pop it Spray god. Nothing wrong with being safe, but 75 shot give me a brake. You don't understand all you think you know about nitrous. Why pull timing on 75 please explain. . . Enlighten me please?
And tell me why spraying 175 shot on full timing is such a smart idea on a stock bottom end?

Im not getting into it with you... He wanted to know how to run his 75 shot in a safe matter and thats what I told him. I guess we all have opinions on what safe is.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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If you want to run it even safer get a wideband, fuel safety cutoff switch and colder plugs as well.
I agree wideband=good
Fuel safety=good
colder plugs= ok doesn't hurt
pull timing=why

Does slow timing=safe on spray??? HUMH I wonder??
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Never heard of slow timing, must be something new.
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Never heard of slow timing, must be something new
YOU got to be kidding. Sorry I wasted time in here. SLOW TIMING, old time talk for retarted. Read less... Thats funny.

Nice pics, explain why timing did that. I will check back in the morning. Please enlighten my oh nitorus god.
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retard*
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Originally Posted by quik406
No need to do anything. Just get some good fuel and spray the crap out of. PERIOD!!! Anything else is LIES. LS1gummi iS full OF SH%T!!!! My stock 98 with 175 shop just has plugs and good fuel. NO TUNE! Wideband is nice to see what is happening, but will not hurt anything. Have Fun.

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DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...
I call bullshit that you can pop a 175 wet shot in your car and do no timing and no tune, and it be fine and handle it.

I know plenty of people that killed their engines on 150 wet shot with no tuning at all. regular gas. BOOMMM.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6guru
I have a 2000 Ws6 trans am. i just got a zex 75 shot wet nitrous kit. What do i need to make this setup safe and reliable. currently im running ngk tr55 plugs, stock tune. i dont think it came with a purge. can i run a stock tune. the insructions say i need to retard the timing 5 degrees. if so how do you do this procees. any other advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks.
I would suggest a tune, but you can get a device that does this from a vendor on here. It will pull the timing out when you need it to for when you hit the spray.

I would say go tr6 plugs to be on safe side.
75 shot you can do on 93 pump no problem. might want to get purge.

then after you play with it, get some bigger pills.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...
I call bullshit that you can pop a 175 wet shot in your car and do no timing and no tune, and it be fine and handle it.

I know plenty of people that killed their engines on 150 wet shot with no tuning at all. regular gas. BOOMMM.
If you would read, I never said regular gas...

No need to tune the ECU when You have control over fuel with jet or fuel pressure.

None of you nutt swingers have explained to me why pulling timing is such a great thing!

You just repeat what you have read!

You are welcome to come to Kansas and see how to run nitrous. I love uneducated dumb a$$es that call BS and don't know or understand anything about nitrous except what they have read. Classic crap getting regurgitated in here, less timing, more fuel, bla bla What a joke. Got luck spray gods.
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Aww, the internet.
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Originally Posted by WS6guru
I have a 2000 Ws6 trans am. i just got a zex 75 shot wet nitrous kit. What do i need to make this setup safe and reliable. currently im running ngk tr55 plugs, stock tune. i dont think it came with a purge. can i run a stock tune. the insructions say i need to retard the timing 5 degrees. if so how do you do this procees. any other advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks.
As long as your timing isn't advanced any then you'll be fine on the 75 shot. For sure, you need to drop to a colder set of plugs. All of the other accessories are not absolutely necessary, they will however help you get the most out of your nitrous kit. Just keep in mind that it is a wet kit and your a/f is pressure based so a purge and heater aren't bad ideas at all. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks.

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