*02WS6TURK*

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Well I can think of one way to get me to come over to the dark side....let me test your new build out at the track

Mikey 97Z M6

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I can totally respect the fact that you wouldn't want to seriously modify your ride. You are the only one that needs to be happy with what you have. When I say seriously modify, I mean install a weld-in rollcage, minitubs, or something that is permanently installed to the floorpans etc.. something that would be very difficult to change back to original.

I think the part that cracks me up the most is when guys talk about the newer gen SS's and WS.6's like they are something really rare or unique. Back in the day GM (and all of Detroit automakers) used to make significant changes to the engines/transmissions before labeling a normal car an "SS" or whatever the new name badge was. The new generation of "SS's" or "Limited Edition" cars are nothing more than a stock version with an intake filter and a different hood and maybe if you're lucky you'll get upgraded shocks/springs with a couple badges placed throughout the car. Not exactly unique from my perspective. I think GM has realized this over the years and is exactly why the rumored "Z28" for the new Camaro will have the de-tuned SC engine (LS9?) from the ZR1. Now that, my friends, should be a respected car IMHO.

Again, just my lowly opinion.....

Mike

Mikey 97Z M6

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LOL.... Put that stroker 427 that you mentioned before into your ride and we'll talk.

Mike

02sslayer

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i know what your saying about how these cars arent that rare, but they dident make very many 35th LE's. and what about the berger ss's? those are worth a ton of money and they wont go down in value i dont think. and pontiac isent even a company anymore, so the transams could be worth something someday maybe. but i dident buy my ss for it to be worth a ton of money, i got it cause i love to drive fbody's. its really about the best bang for the buck you could ever want out of a street car or drag car

*02WS6TURK*

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I don't recal anyone on here mentioning anything about the SS 35TH or the WS6 being anything too special or rare. On the other hand, you don't see that many around or one's that are in Great condition. Everything I see around here is a busted up, riced out Z28 or V6....other then your guy's cars.

Mike, I'm not gonna spend the money on my motor any more then I have too. If anything, and I have given it some thought, I would do a LS? swap. Not sure of which one though.

02sslayer

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someday in the future, i wana get a fully forged 402ci ls2 aluminum block with some afr heads and big *** cam. i dont see my self ever wanting more cubes than that.

Mikey 97Z M6

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I wasn't pointing a finger at anyone in particular or anyone on here so I appologize if it came across that way. It was meant to be a very generalized statement. But there are people in this world that think an SS or WS.6 is superior to any other fbody and look down on all others. Those are the people that humor me to no end.

Mike

welldonecj7

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Yea, my grandpa has an all original many optioned 68 camaro rs and it is very nice car however me personally would like something that is not number match etc so you can make it how you like it. Everyone is different and i respect both sides. My car is nothing special like you said, it is a little different and by numbers may be considered rare but like you said nothing much different than any other ss. I just got a decent buy on it, liked the car and it is a little different than the average ss. I will never do anything insane to this car, if i was going to do that would buy one that is cheaper to start with and build from there. However i would like to eventually do some stuff to it, but like i said most things can always be returned to stock if stock parts are kept for anyone who prefers those completely stock cars. I am just interested in cars in general and pretty much any "muscle" type car interests me.

zlicious94

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Z28's FTW!!!!

99TransAm GF

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Yea but for what you would have spent it wouldn't have big that big of a difference. Looks great now!

*02WS6TURK*

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I got ya bro. Some people think a badge equals better/go faster...kinda like some of the ricers in my area that throw on the Nos stickers LOL

Thanks man!

ls1whip

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what i dont understand is why gm messed up on the z28...the z28 should have came out first then the ss i meen from the beginning the z28 was the lighter smaller cube high revving transam champ racer and the ss was the big dog for the strip they where two dif dogs the ss has always had more power even up till now, but instead of like mike said having two distinct cars you have a slp package with like 15-20 extra horses a LITTLE fin and some nicer wheels and the car is basically the same..but now gm's bringing the z28 out as the top dog? i meen all the z-28 used to be was a production code for suspension seems like backwards they should call it a copo in my opinion lol that was the next step after the ss but mabey the engineers only grew up in the 70's after the ss badge was dropped and the z28 was actually the best you could get till 1996 when the ss had a rebirth so mabey its marketing? lol or mabey they are going along with the Z badge being that the z06 and zr1 are hyper performace cars and mabey they think the badging will go along with that? but the zo6 and ZR1 badges are not new...lol they are ooold old the code zr1 was a uprated suspension package and actually the ZR2 was the code for the suspension and the mighty LS-6 454 that was 1971 the zr1 package was around prior to 1971 aswell the z06 code was even older than that.

02sslayer

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you sure do know your history

02sslayer

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just gonna thro his out there,the beger SS's ar pretty special. along with al;l the rest of the GMMG cars. but your run of the mill ss is pretty common i guess

ls1whip

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lol thanks man idk i have been obsessed with gm cars since my dad told me stories about running to mexico in his 71 z28 and my uncle telling me about his 71 corvette and chevelle's and elky's he had lol i had no choice..i was adddicted to the bowtie from birth i think.. i have had 4 c10 trucks 2 72's a 65 still have a 69 c10 i had a 69 elcamino and a 84 lifted k5 blazer lol the bowtie runs deep with me ahahah..gmmg widebody besides 67-73 maros i think hands down for me even over the new camaros is my fav body style..they have a orange one for sale for 100k ls7 prolly like 5 miles on it..lol damn i wish some one made the widebody kit for the 4th gens..

Mikey 97Z M6

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Something worth noting though is that the "SS" badge can be found on just about any Chevrolet platform from trucks to Impala's, to Cobalts. The Z28 badge is only found on the Camaro, making it exclusive to that platform. For the first gen Camaro's, the Z28 badge was the most rare, being only a little over 600 Z28's being made in 1967.

Mike

zlicious94

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^^^ Yes sir!

ls1whip

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even so the badge has been a mainstay in the top performance model usually minus other very special cars. the z28 was rare cause for the price the ss seemed to be a better deal performance wise thats why there are more of the ss cars running around of that vintage cause the demand for that package was more thus they sold more

welldonecj7

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
Something worth noting though is that the "SS" badge can be found on just about any Chevrolet platform from trucks to Impala's, to Cobalts. The Z28 badge is only found on the Camaro, making it exclusive to that platform. For the first gen Camaro's, the Z28 badge was the most rare, being only a little over 600 Z28's being made in 1967.

Mike




And in 67 those cars did not come with any z28 markings so very hard to tell if it was a z28 if i remember right one of the only ways to tell if it was the z28 is a 4L marking. Those little 302 are strong running engines.

Mikey 97Z M6

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The word performance means different things to different people though. If you're talking about pure hp and straight line speed, then yes the SS with a big block would be the winner. But if you're talking about roadcourse performance, I think the lighter Z28 of that era with it's better brakes and stiffer suspension would be showing the heavier SS the tail lights on just about any roadcourse in the country. That little 302 was no slouch (in stock form) and the Sunoco/Penske Camaro's cleaned house in the Trans Am series with the modded versions of the Z28.

Mike