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So I'm doing a bunch of stuff the vert to make it drivable while I wait until Trailblazer SS prices go down.
Part of it is a LS6 valley cover swap and the valley is disgusting looks like the bottom of a B-que with huge flakes.
So I clean it out with the shop vac and carb cleaner with rags in the cam holes. so then I take off a vavle cover (installing Edebrock LT's) and see the picture below. Granted the car hasn't been started in a month but it is bone dry in the valley and heads...
I have always ran mobile 1 since I bought it with 55k on it now has 72k. I'm wondering if there was a break in the original pcv system it was pretty brittle taking it off. now the whole motor is full of F(*&*(&(*G dirt. If I would have known this before spending all this damn money on the car I would have traded it in on a 01+ WS6.
Anyone know a good cleaner that will help without knocking the crude loose (which scares me as alot of it is pretty hard obsidian like) Or should I just start saving for a new short block??? Then I'll need to decide on a 402 with cheap heads or a 346 with expensive heads....... DAMN DAMN this isn't the only problem going on right now but the most worrisome...
Thanks or reading my rant!!!
Bobby
Part of it is a LS6 valley cover swap and the valley is disgusting looks like the bottom of a B-que with huge flakes.
So I clean it out with the shop vac and carb cleaner with rags in the cam holes. so then I take off a vavle cover (installing Edebrock LT's) and see the picture below. Granted the car hasn't been started in a month but it is bone dry in the valley and heads...
I have always ran mobile 1 since I bought it with 55k on it now has 72k. I'm wondering if there was a break in the original pcv system it was pretty brittle taking it off. now the whole motor is full of F(*&*(&(*G dirt. If I would have known this before spending all this damn money on the car I would have traded it in on a 01+ WS6.
Anyone know a good cleaner that will help without knocking the crude loose (which scares me as alot of it is pretty hard obsidian like) Or should I just start saving for a new short block??? Then I'll need to decide on a 402 with cheap heads or a 346 with expensive heads....... DAMN DAMN this isn't the only problem going on right now but the most worrisome...
Thanks or reading my rant!!!
Bobby
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Originally Posted by Ryan K
Damn man, it looks like the first owner never changed the oil... and ran Q-state.
Ryan
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DISGUSTING!!! I recall back in the old days we'd fill the motor with 4 qts of oil + 1 qt of diesel fuel & let it idle for 1/2 hr. THat should clean all the crud out. Then fill it again with oil & run it for another 15 mintues to clean the diesel out & drain & fill one more time. Worth a try.....
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Just remember if you use a solvent or diesel to dissolve all that crude, its all going to go into the oil and into the pan. The filter will trap a lot of it but be aware it won't get it all.
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And I think you wnat the engine warm when you start this process so the crud "melts". Otherwise it can get stuck in the return passages & journals.
TJ - can you design a cog belt system for my car? I'm strapping a D-1SC @ ~ 12psi on it soon & Ellis is worried we'll have to tighten the 8 rib so far it could stress the front main bearing.
TJ - can you design a cog belt system for my car? I'm strapping a D-1SC @ ~ 12psi on it soon & Ellis is worried we'll have to tighten the 8 rib so far it could stress the front main bearing.
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HMM I might try the deisel thing. Although at this point I'm seriously considering parting the mods out and buying something else. The car was just starting to get where I like it. But I hate dropping 6k into a motor setup for a convertible. Its a great cruiser but I'd rather be rolling a 00 FRC instead or a certain 388 SS for the same money..... What a jackass the prior owner was ![Sad](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_sad.gif)
This just sucks cause I have headers, LS6 intake, T56 conversion, ls6 valley conversion, interior half converted to new ebony, new top, ss hood, RK front spoiler, Bilstien/BMR suspension, SFC's etc etc etc all installed or waiting to be intalled. not too mention the new TTII's. I was going to install all this and start on the real mods seems hard to backtrack get it running then get rid of it...
Anyone try Seafoam in the oil??
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This just sucks cause I have headers, LS6 intake, T56 conversion, ls6 valley conversion, interior half converted to new ebony, new top, ss hood, RK front spoiler, Bilstien/BMR suspension, SFC's etc etc etc all installed or waiting to be intalled. not too mention the new TTII's. I was going to install all this and start on the real mods seems hard to backtrack get it running then get rid of it...
Anyone try Seafoam in the oil??
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I'd just take the head off and clean it up.
Does the other head look the same way?
Does the other head look the same way?
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
And I think you wnat the engine warm when you start this process so the crud "melts". Otherwise it can get stuck in the return passages & journals.
TJ - can you design a cog belt system for my car? I'm strapping a D-1SC @ ~ 12psi on it soon & Ellis is worried we'll have to tighten the 8 rib so far it could stress the front main bearing.
TJ - can you design a cog belt system for my car? I'm strapping a D-1SC @ ~ 12psi on it soon & Ellis is worried we'll have to tighten the 8 rib so far it could stress the front main bearing.
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Sorry for the hi-jack Bobby....there are some pics of the blower mounted on the front of the engine on my website in my link TJ. Look at the blower album, it should give you an idea. The belt is short, only about 40". Maybe the best thing would be for me & Ellis to bring it down to your shop for a dyno session after the new blower goes on?
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Wow that sucks. My dad told me about doing the diesel thing, and he also told me he used to do that with liquid wrench.. I thought he was kidding for a long time, just wrote it off as one of his crazy ramblings lol. The person I bought my new Volvo motor from ran some type of solvent through the engine before I bought it, and it turned out looking like this:
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And that's after 500 running hours.. Works pretty well and most likely worth your effort if you ask me. Just don't forget to change the oil afterwards
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And that's after 500 running hours.. Works pretty well and most likely worth your effort if you ask me. Just don't forget to change the oil afterwards
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
Sorry for the hi-jack Bobby....there are some pics of the blower mounted on the front of the engine on my website in my link TJ. Look at the blower album, it should give you an idea. The belt is short, only about 40". Maybe the best thing would be for me & Ellis to bring it down to your shop for a dyno session after the new blower goes on?
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If you make it down to the shop let me know we can go grab some lunch, I'd love to see the car on the rollers too. Might be sporting the Bimmer though
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Well on the advice of Mr Wong I'm going to run some dino oil for a few months changing it every 2000 miles. Then I'll take a look under the valve cover, if it looks a little better I may try a solvent a couple of times.
I just don't want to throw alot of parts at a shortblock full of dirt so this will curb my mods to bolt ons which is probably a good thing...
I just don't want to throw alot of parts at a shortblock full of dirt so this will curb my mods to bolt ons which is probably a good thing...
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
TJ - can you design a cog belt system for my car? I'm strapping a D-1SC @ ~ 12psi on it soon & Ellis is worried we'll have to tighten the 8 rib so far it could stress the front main bearing.
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Be careful, Mark. That belt actually needs to slip a little bit if you're going to drive it on the street at all. My buddy went to a cog set up and he spun the balancer off the crank. He had a D1SC at 20 lbs or so on a forged LT1. He bought a new crank with a big block snout and now runs a 12 rib at 16 lbs and a little juce. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 93TAWicked1
HMM I might try the deisel thing. Although at this point I'm seriously considering parting the mods out and buying something else. The car was just starting to get where I like it. But I hate dropping 6k into a motor setup for a convertible. Its a great cruiser but I'd rather be rolling a 00 FRC instead or a certain 388 SS for the same money..... What a jackass the prior owner was ![Sad](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_sad.gif)
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Originally Posted by Ackattack1
I think you'd look good rolling in a Formula on TTIIs. Hell, I'll even through in a sway bar!