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Old 08-13-2006 | 01:25 PM
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Any guesses as to why my car is a turd? Have a shift light and used it. Cut my 60's down to 2.2 , 2.1 from 2.4 and didnt mis a shift. Shifting at 6k rpms.
Should I up the rev limiter to say 6500 rpms and shift at 6300 rpms instead?

Theres got to be a reason for my poor track times
Oh ya threw an SES light but I'm pretty sure thats because I removed the secondary air system.
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Old 08-13-2006 | 01:40 PM
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Any guesses as to why my car is a turd? Have a shift light and used it. Cut my 60's down to 2.2 , 2.1 from 2.4 and didnt mis a shift. Shifting at 6k rpms.
Should I up the rev limiter to say 6500 rpms and shift at 6300 rpms instead?

Theres got to be a reason for my poor track times
I'd def. shift higher. From the dyno graph, it looks like you're making peak hp at 6200 +/-. You might have to play with your shift points but I'd def start higher than 6k. IMO, you're throwing power out the window shifting at 6k.

2.1 isn't too bad for normal street tires, especially if it's lowered without LCA relocation brackets etc..

Aside from that, unless your car is a complete TANK, you should be trapping 116+mph.

Also, and this may seem crazy, but I had an issue with my floor mat one time. It was getting under the throttle pedal and not letting the car get to WOT.... just something I thought I mention. Couldn't figue out why the hell my car was only trapping at 109 when I was used to trapping at 114 lol...
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Well how slow is the turd and we can tell you
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108 on all runs at 13.2 13.3 13.4
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You need the !driver mod

108s alone should have you bottom 12s. 1.8 60s will get you 11s easy
Old 08-13-2006 | 07:37 PM
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How do you leave the line? Have stickies on?

You should be side stepping the clutch around 5K with good stickies to get a good 60ft in a stick car.

What rear do you have? The above should only be done with a 12bolt or 9inch.

Shifting way to early too. Take it to at least 6400. My mostly stocker shifts at 6k.
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I guess I could change over to an auto and take the driver out of the equation but I like the stick.

I'll raise my rev limiter and shift at a higher point.

I'm having traction issues off the line but most people think I should still be trapping at a higher mph for the power my car has. I'll see what happens with the shift point change. At least I'm consistent in my times and speed which has to indicate some consistency to my driving. Slow or not I'm consistent.
Old 08-14-2006 | 01:11 AM
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I guess I could change over to an auto and take the driver out of the equation but I like the stick.
If you believe that you have alot to learn. I have seen many Auto cars put in the wall over the years who were being poiloted by someone that held those beliefes

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I'm having traction issues off the line but most people think I should still be trapping at a higher mph for the power my car has. I'll see what happens with the shift point change. At least I'm consistent in my times and speed which has to indicate some consistency to my driving. Slow or not I'm consistent.
Keep working at it. I have seen as much as two seconds gained by leaning how to get the job done
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Well ya still have to get the thing down the track but no doubt its a lot easier with an auto. Mash the pedal and keep it straight. I've had 2 other cars that I ran but both were autos. A 72 Chevellle and a 71 Challenger. The Challenger at least had a slap stick in it which made it more fun to drive.
Honestly I'm not that pissed about the et ( I know 60's will fix the et) its the trap speed that bothers me. It should be higher is what is felt by almost everyone I talk to.

So thats got to be either a problem with the car or my shifting point. I nailed all my shifts Sat night. My slips are all within 2/10's of each other. Thats not bad driving with just a shift light.
Old 08-14-2006 | 10:33 AM
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How are ya shifting? Are you keeping it floored between shifts? After ellis told me to do that it cut my times significantly in my old 99 T/A which was stock except for free mods.

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You're mph is not slow. It is your ET with that mph that is slow. with 108 mph you should be deep in the 12's, but considering your 60' that all looks correct.
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You're mph is not slow. It is your ET with that mph that is slow. with 108 mph you should be deep in the 12's, but considering your 60' that all looks correct.
Really? I was taking abuse because I was listing projected dynojet numbers in my sig as 440hp 420tq and I'm only trapping at 108. They were saying that at that power level I should be at 120.

Yes I'm taking my foot off the gas to shift. I just cant make myself keep it floored and bang thru the gears.


So what your all saying is that my 60's are the issue and trap speed is ok. Even for a car with as much power as I have? Its 410 on Toms Mustang dyno which is about 440 or so on a dynojet?

I have an 86 Caprice wagon 15 inch tires. Can I use those rims for some et streets? I'm broke and cant afford to buy anything these days.
Old 08-14-2006 | 12:35 PM
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108 with a M6 is slow. My nearly stock 00 Trans Am ran a 13.11 at 108, it maybe had 320 hp. I also had 2.1 60 foots. But, I have no idea besides listen to other advice on how to make it go faster. I know mine was mostly in the 60 fts, the fact I use my clutch and don't keep it floored while I shift.
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I don't know about deep in the 12's with a 108 speed, mine is 108 and all I can muster is 12.8xx on a good day. But then again, I'm pretty much all stock motor.
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Well did some compression checking today and one cylinder is at 60 psi while the others are at around 180.
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in my formula that had ~330rwhp I ran a 12.8 @ 109 w/ 1.9 60' time, that was lifting the gas while shifting. I was also running 106mph in 105* heat (no exageration either) So your speed is way off for you power level. Also, I went from running a 13.6 to a 12.8 without doing anything to the car! Just practicing and improving my driving skill. M6 BTW.

Overall though, your speed and et sound in check with each other......just not for the power level you have. Figure out what's wrong with the car.
Old 09-02-2006 | 11:17 PM
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in my formula that had ~330rwhp I ran a 12.8 @ 109 w/ 1.9 60' time, that was lifting the gas while shifting. I was also running 106mph in 105* heat (no exageration either) So your speed is way off for you power level. Also, I went from running a 13.6 to a 12.8 without doing anything to the car! Just practicing and improving my driving skill. M6 BTW.

Overall though, your speed and et sound in check with each other......just not for the power level you have. Figure out what's wrong with the car.
I lost a cylinder is what I said in the above post but in different words. This is whats wrong with my car.
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ellis you need to teach me how to drive i went to pacific a few weeks back and ran 11.9@119 on the motor but it was my first time out in 2 years. hey 99 lets pull that motor apart also i saw another post you are having problems with your window switch well i had the same prob and here is the solution. it needs to be setup 5v and you need to cut the wires to configure it as a 4cly. you should have had to do it for a shift light as well
Old 09-04-2006 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ablakez28
ellis you need to teach me how to drive i went to pacific a few weeks back and ran 11.9@119 on the motor but it was my first time out in 2 years. hey 99 lets pull that motor apart also i saw another post you are having problems with your window switch well i had the same prob and here is the solution. it needs to be setup 5v and you need to cut the wires to configure it as a 4cly. you should have had to do it for a shift light as well
The shift light is a little different setup now you dont have wires to cut, you just configure it. Also the window swithc is the NO electronic and it the same way. You just configure it. I think the switch is fried internaly. Its wired correctly and the noids work. I'll talk to Dave tuesday and send it back to him for analysis.

The car still pulls pretty damn hard so I guess I can drive it for a long time the way it is. Sooner or later something worse might happen though? Tom said something about rings maybe.



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