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Old 12-26-2006, 09:24 AM
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Hey Dog, after watching some of the corners you carved in the 1/4 mile, maybe I should listen to you..... I might cut a hole in my cowl like you did to let heat out of the engine bay.....maybe.

The rules are whatever tire I run in the road race, I must run in the 1 mile shootout too. And the road race is 50 miles each way, target speed (average) will be 120, tech speed (max) will be 140, car will weigh over 4k no matter what I take off. And we will be taking some turns at over 100mph. Not a good thing for DRs.

The car should pass tech for 168 I think. But only Boyce has ever been allowed to exceed 140 as a rookie. Considering this will only be in a straight line, which I have a fair amount of experience running, I'm hoping they will let me run the 1 mile race. If not, I hope to finish on top for the 1/2 mile.

We are probably changing the gear ratio to 2.70 to keep the rpms down during the road race. The car would be turning ~ 3k at our cruising speed of 120, and if I had to hit passing gear to keep that 64 Galaxie behind me, it would drop into it's power band at 4250.

More math - 2.70s would let me run 182mph in 3rd gear @ 6500 rpm, with a top speed of 260 in 4th. Not to worry Ellis, we don't have that much HP, & Ram Air hoods come apart at 190mph anyways.
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
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From what I have herd they make tires to carry Ego's MUCH larger then ours so we should be good.

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Now, there's the understatement of the century! Just watch out for the porcupines - they're everywhere!!
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Mark. Just go with the toyo RA-1's. Less rolling resistance with them over the 315's. You might have tracktion issues in the shoot out but your main concern is the run itself not the drag race.
Old 12-26-2006, 11:54 AM
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I have got to say with a sticky set of of 275s I think we will do good in the shoot out. I had both front wheels off the ground in Jimbobs car with 275s

BTW we WILL be taping that hood down and the holes closed
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The intake nostrils?
Old 12-26-2006, 12:14 PM
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Run 275's that is what I run and the shoot out is a secondary goal. I don't even run shoot outs, the added stress and strain on the car just scares me.This maybe because I blew a tire at 204mph.
Have you asked for permission to run faster then 120 average? Boyce is not the only one that has gotten the nod to up the speed.

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What about the Nitto 555RII road racing tire?
Old 12-26-2006, 12:25 PM
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I've run the RII and now run the nt-01. The rII comes in a 305 I believe. The nt-01 in a 315x18 not sure about a 17 or 16. I've run my car to 145+ with the nt-01 on the back with zero handling issues. Only had the 275x17 rII on the back and it was very stable as well but I didnt have it at 140 either.

With the 315's the only issues I had with rub would be in a corner if there was a bump in the corner. But since the 9" install it doesnt rub anymore, or I havent been able to make it rub yet. Or Ellis clearanced it a little. I know he worked the tunnel but I didnt think he worked on the wells.

The NT-01 is friggin scary over 65 in a decent rain.

jus ma esperience wid a couple tires mentioned
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Originally Posted by NataSS Inc
The intake nostrils?
With the blower the nostrils aren't functional anymore Boyce. It's a bottom feeder now. Leaving them open to let air into the engine bay & cutting a hole in the cowl to let heat out might be a good idea. Plenty of time to figure this stuff out I guess.

And while you are correct Jeffy, I REALLY want to do the shoot out. Ellis & I would like to do well in the road race, but we have no illusions of winning anything the first time out. Right Ellis? Finishing would be good!

The shoot out however is an area my car could make some noise in. It's not setup to take corners @ 200mph, but for 1 mile I think it will hang with most of the cars that show up. In the 1/2 mile I'm hoping to be in the top 5....which would be sweet for a newbie.

And no I haven't asked. Mike kind of hinted that maybe they'd consider something. In reality I'm not sure I want to take my car *****-out for a mile. I'm kind of scared just how fast it might go. I figure 160-170 is my cajone limit for now.
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Originally Posted by Rokko
What about the Nitto 555RII road racing tire?
From what people tell me, those are good street tires, but they just are designed for the heat & abuse an ORR will subject them to. The Toyo RA-1 275s are looking like the ticket right now.....shaved or unshaved is the question.
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
shaved or unshaved is the question.
Dont shave them. At the speeds you will be going you wont need that much lateral traction. Jeff and I run a Continental street tire in the 170 class and dont shave them and we still have plenty of traction.
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Thanks Boyce!
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about time that little freak showed up and helped!
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Sorry, out of town for 10 days and then got home and went right into christmas.
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Mark, do you already have the alignment specs your going to use, trans cooler in or planned, diff cooler?
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Transcooler is in. Diff-cooler at his house. I think he is stil checking on spec. I am trying to get as much heavy stuff out of the car as we can.

One of the reasons for the 2.7 gears is lower trans temps
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Nope, I don't have specs yet. I figured I'd talk to you, Don, Bill & Ellis at LENGTH before I decided. And the trans temp isn't my main concern. It runs pretty cool (<150*) with the Be-Cool + B&M. The engine oil on the other hand runs HOT (>230 with the coolant temps <190). This is cruising down I-5 @ 65-70. Hence Bills dif/oil cooler in my garage. And me trying to figure out how to create heat extractors....while limiting the risk of any oil on the windshield.
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
It runs pretty cool (<150*) with the Be-Cool + B&M.
Thats going to go up if you try to hang on your tech speed for any length of time. just keep an eye on it. But since you have the trans guru in the car with you he can make the call on "to hot".

The engine oil on the other hand runs HOT (>230 with the coolant temps <190). This is cruising down I-5 @ 65-70. Hence Bills dif/oil cooler in my garage.
230* is way to hot. Hopefully the cooler can bring it down significantly. And your the one that made off with the diff cooler :hammer:


And me trying to figure out how to create heat extractors....while limiting the risk of any oil on the windshield.
Are you having problems with blowby right now or something?
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No Blow by problems. Just if any thing happens every thing goes right on the windshield. Would prefer to get it out to the sides of the car and not on the windshield
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
The car should pass tech for 168 I think. But only Boyce has ever been allowed to exceed 140 as a rookie.
They let me do 168 as a rookie at the SSCC, but it took alot of talking to get them to do it. They REALLY seemed to want me to settle for 140. Had to send them dozens of pics of my car setup/prep, a copy of my Proformance race school certificate, and embellish a little bit about my experience
Hence Bills dif/oil cooler in my garage.
Ssshhhhhh !
In reality I'm not sure I want to take my car *****-out for a mile. I'm kind of scared just how fast it might go !
I'll do it


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