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Old 05-02-2007, 05:57 PM
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What do you know...just a bunch of ****. I like cops that protect and serve not serve to collect...
Old 05-02-2007, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
The Law Enforcment is no longer there to Protect and Sevre. More like Revnue enforcement
Been saying the same damn thing as you and even saw the one document King5 *did* produce couple of years back there is a 'quota' but they defer it to something less nasty than such a word.

Not every district is under this sort of heavy handedness but take one look at Grant county - their records show nothing but a "revenue" source by writing up to 5 per hour by pulling over three at a time.

That is when its time to do a blow by and say ya thought they meant to slow down
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Was it in a school zone with kids around? 1 mph is hardcore!
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I used to work in Marysville, and I can tell ya, we used to watch that cop on the bike, he would park in the lot at the Feed and Grain store next to NAPA on the main stretch.
I remember counting 12 citations in a 2 hour stretch on time, and no, I knew locals that got that same ticket. Hell I got 65 in a 60 on the highway there, due to the casino's, the new outlet malls and etc there's a TON of accidents in that area, we used to see EMTs and Rescue response at least 2-3 times a day some days, and always once a day ... Marysville instituted <sp?> a No Tolerance ordinance the nice officer told me as he handed me my ticket.. yep you guessed it, was on a motorcycle..
Never asked for my license, reg or Proof of insurance. Walked up, said you know you were speeding.. etc etc and handed me my citation. Walked back to his motorcycle and promptly pulled some other poor slob over.
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Don't get me started.

This evening coming home from work I got pulled over by one of Kirkland's finest. Coming over Market Street it is 25 then turns to 35 half-way up (northbound). I was in the 25 mile area and the car behind me (a Lotus Elise) was climbing all over me doing at least 45. There was a cop behind him and on the down side of the hill it switches to 4 lanes and the cop went around the Lotus and pulled me over. WTF!!

He ended up just giving me a "warning" and telling me how he loves Trans Am's and would not like to see mine wrecked. He did not use radar but said he was doing 35 and I was pulling away. What EXACTLY that meant I have no idea. Was I pulling away hard or was I just bearly moving faster than he was?

Truth be known, my speedo is about 2 mph high and it was not quite on 40. That means I was MAYBE doing 36 in a 35.
Old 05-03-2007, 10:51 AM
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LOL. Don't get ME started about Kirkland Police Department (affectionately known as KPD by me and the boyz). We moved to Kirkland in 1985 so I spent the part of my youth growing up there.

My second car was a 1985 Ford LTD-II, the one based off the fox chassis. I got that thing my senior year in high school after some idiot totalled my Ford Escort by rear ending it. It was an ex-police car, and had a 5.0L TBI motor in it, the same one from the Mustang. KPD "loved" that car almost as much as I did. Btw, this is when my love of high performance cars started.

In fact, KPD started getting me mixed up with the previous owner of the car, who also lived in Kirkland, and apparently liked to carry weapons around with him (explains the hollow tip 9mm bullet I found under the seat one day).

They'd pull me over whenever they saw me, call for backup, want to search the car, asking questions about whether I had weapons.

Of course, I can't say I wasn't egging them on in some cases (like flooring it by them when I saw one of them writing a ticket to another "customer"), or decorating my ex-police car with barely legal lights in the back window. Yep, those were the good old days... Lol
Old 05-03-2007, 04:04 PM
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80% of tickets go uncontested.

with tickets, all I do now is call the attorney and fax the thing over.
long term it's less expensive, and the cops don't get the money. *usually*.

the person that represents himself in court has a fool for a lawyer. I learned that if I show up to contest my ticket, I lose and still have to pay up. the system is nothing but a tax... revenue for the city/county etc.
Old 05-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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Think I posted about this before... but when I got a ticket for passing and got it dropped, while I was at court they would move the ticket to a non-moving violation, but you would still keep the same fee and on top of it you had to be $10 more. Than if you wanted payments I think it was $5 more also. Also if I remember right, if you wanted them to pull the money out of your account automatically... they charged you $15 more for that...

In fact there has been a cop hanging out near my community for the last month. I believe only one time I have NOT seen him with someone pulled over. 90% of the community speeds through there at 50+ (40mph zone) so I can kind of see it happening all the time, especially after the hill where people rocket up it at 70+ mph passing everyone they can. If you are smart you slow down before the peak of the hill to 45 or 50 just incase they could be sitting in the alternate driveway to the high school at the top of the hill.
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Originally Posted by 01T-TopToy
I used to work in Marysville, and I can tell ya, we used to watch that cop on the bike, he would park in the lot at the Feed and Grain store next to NAPA on the main stretch.
I remember counting 12 citations in a 2 hour stretch on time, and no, I knew locals that got that same ticket. Hell I got 65 in a 60 on the highway there, due to the casino's, the new outlet malls and etc there's a TON of accidents in that area, we used to see EMTs and Rescue response at least 2-3 times a day some days, and always once a day ... Marysville instituted <sp?> a No Tolerance ordinance the nice officer told me as he handed me my ticket.. yep you guessed it, was on a motorcycle..
Never asked for my license, reg or Proof of insurance. Walked up, said you know you were speeding.. etc etc and handed me my citation. Walked back to his motorcycle and promptly pulled some other poor slob over.
So exactly how did they know who to write the ticket to? And don't tell me they got the info from your registration on the radio because the owner of the car isn't always the one driving the vehicle & that won't show your DOB, DL number, etc. It is virtually impossible to write a speeding (or any other non-parking) ticket without your DL info. The ticket requires, full name, date of birth, address, DL number, etc. I am just curious.
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Not exactly sure Rott. All I can tell ya is what I remember from when it happened, I was pretty hot at the time as I was in a line of traffic, I saw the officer in the breakdown on the left and even saw him pointing the gun at traffic.. I thought nothing of it..
Of course my opinion changed dramatically when I saw him behind me with the lights going...
I could have mistated myself about asking for the license it was a few years back, but the fact he did not ask me about the registration or Proof of insurance is what really sticks out in my mind. I have perhaps 3 tickets for Any type of violation in the last 15 years so the protocol involved isn't imprinted in my mind like star on the strip in hollywood . I do remember arguing with him about how it was he designated me from the whole line of traffic..
His response was "You were the one I noticed"
The general point of the post was that I doubted it had anything to do with nationality as stated much earlier on, and that Marysville hands out traffic violations fairly readily. I doubt it has as much to do with revenue as it has to do with trying to create an aura of caution in local drivers.
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Originally Posted by 01T-TopToy
Not exactly sure Rott. All I can tell ya is what I remember from when it happened, I was pretty hot at the time as I was in a line of traffic, I saw the officer in the breakdown on the left and even saw him pointing the gun at traffic.. I thought nothing of it..
Of course my opinion changed dramatically when I saw him behind me with the lights going...
I could have mistated myself about asking for the license it was a few years back, but the fact he did not ask me about the registration or Proof of insurance is what really sticks out in my mind. I have perhaps 3 tickets for Any type of violation in the last 15 years so the protocol involved isn't imprinted in my mind like star on the strip in hollywood . I do remember arguing with him about how it was he designated me from the whole line of traffic..
His response was "You were the one I noticed"
The general point of the post was that I doubted it had anything to do with nationality as stated much earlier on, and that Marysville hands out traffic violations fairly readily. I doubt it has as much to do with revenue as it has to do with trying to create an aura of caution in local drivers.
Gotcha, didn't mean to come off confrontational, was just trying to figure out how it could have gone down that way......and yeah, the general tag line is "License, reg & proof of ins"......lotta traffic guys (motors, etc) will bypass that if the reg matches the driver and what not.
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i know edmonds, mountlake terrace, lynnwood and brier can look up the registration on they're in vehicle laptops and quite a few of the registrations have your drivers license number on there and from there it's a simple copy paste to look up the driving record and warrants etc.
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I believe they still need to identify the driver, as the driver committed the violation, not the vehicle. (Which makes me question the legality of the red-light cameras, but oh well).
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Originally Posted by Rawr256
... there has been a cop hanging ...
A good start

(No offense to the boys in blue but when I read this post that is just how it stuck out.)
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oh and i'm not saying the cop should write a ticket based just on the registration. just that it's available all from your license plate.
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Originally Posted by SeaHawk
I believe they still need to identify the driver, as the driver committed the violation, not the vehicle. (Which makes me question the legality of the red-light cameras, but oh well).
I checked into the red light cams. They get away with it because it is not classed as a moving violation. It's basically like a parking ticket and will not show up on your driving record or count for insurance.

[rant]This was very important for me being a bus driver who works the Auburn routes regularly. Metro had the gall to issue a policy statement saying that any driver who got snagged would get the amount of the ticket deducted from their paycheck! I'm still waiting to get my first, cause if they deduct it I'm going to court. I was not issued the ticket and I am not the registered owner of the vehicle. If Metro, as the vehicle owner, chooses not to fight it, then they are choosing to accept it, not me. If they want to use it as a source of internal discipline that's another story...one they can take up with the union to include in our next contract.[/rant]
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Washington sucks, I have lived in 4 other states and 1 foreign country. Only place I have ever gotten a ticket? Washington state. Last time I was there on leave from Afghanistan I got two in week, both for 5 over ON THE FREEWAY!!!


The east side is going to hell as well. Grant county Sheriffs has started a traffic enforcement branch that is not funded by the county, they are self funded. So if they don't write tickets to make money they lose there jobs. And don't blab on how I don't know what I am talking about, a immediate family member of mine is very high up the food chain in the GC district court system and warned me about them when I landed. As soon as I got the ticket I called and my family member knew the cops name just from the description and said he has so many complaits that they don't know what to o with him, but yet he is still working??

*** WSP too. They are jealous that the GCS is writing more tickets which makes them look bad, so anything over the speed limit even 2mph and you gte a ticket, ask me how I know?

Washington police are out of control.
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[rant]This was very important for me being a bus driver who works the Auburn routes regularly. Metro had the gall to issue a policy statement saying that any driver who got snagged would get the amount of the ticket deducted from their paycheck! I'm still waiting to get my first, cause if they deduct it I'm going to court. I was not issued the ticket and I am not the registered owner of the vehicle. If Metro, as the vehicle owner, chooses not to fight it, then they are choosing to accept it, not me. If they want to use it as a source of internal discipline that's another story...one they can take up with the union to include in our next contract.[/rant][/QUOTE]


I believe you have a valid point!
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Originally Posted by Crisisman
[rant]This was very important for me being a bus driver who works the Auburn routes regularly. Metro had the gall to issue a policy statement saying that any driver who got snagged would get the amount of the ticket deducted from their paycheck! I'm still waiting to get my first, cause if they deduct it I'm going to court. I was not issued the ticket and I am not the registered owner of the vehicle. If Metro, as the vehicle owner, chooses not to fight it, then they are choosing to accept it, not me. If they want to use it as a source of internal discipline that's another story...one they can take up with the union to include in our next contract.[/rant]

I believe you have a valid point!
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Originally Posted by SeaHawk
I believe you have a valid point!
Exactley, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty??


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