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Old 02-26-2008, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
We are going to go big on the cam and SDPC has more then proven them selves to us

I am not saying the others are not good but I saw no problems with us kicking out over 600HP for over 13 miles in Marks car You ever want to put a Smile on an open road racers face just squeeze the throttle at 100MPH and put the tires up in smoke like we did!

Did I mention we ar going BIG on the cam? Bordering Solid territory
I've had a boner that just won't go away since I got this bug in my head to replace the motor.

It's looking like a LS7 based 440ci stroker.
Complete LS7 top end with cable tb, huge a$$ cam and ellis's magic to make her run right.

I'm crossing my fingers to put out 575RWHP n/a. Is this possible?

Who want's to start a bet pool on how many full throttle launches STOCK 10 bolt will last behind this setup?

I'm thinking 5 launches max.

I tell ya it'll be kinda wierd having a 10 bolt abortion and my having a huge smile on my face as it happens!

Anyways i'm excited as hell to get this thing here and installed. I figure while it's out a LS7 clutch will go in as well as poly motormounts.

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Here's some details on what I am about 90% sure i'm getting...still a few details to work out.

440ci LS7 "El Toro Grande" Short Block Assembly w/Flat Top Pistons (-8cc) which consists of:

LS7 Aluminum Block
4.127" Bore
Flat Top Pistons
4.100" Stroke, 4340 Crank
Scat H-Beams 6.125" Rods
Manley 2618 Forged Pistons
HD Tool Steel Pins
Akerly & Childs Ductile Moly Rings

and to top it off....

LS7 CNC Ported Heads with Intake 2.200” Titanium, Exhaust 1.610” Stainless with Titanium Retainers

Loaded LS7 Intake, 90mm cable driven tb,

Big fat cam "specs to be determined"
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Wow... When are you suppose to be getting all of these goodies? Sounds pretty damn good though... I actually having been looking up SDPC's stuff. Some of there options look realy good, and what I have read about them, they seem to be one of the best shops around.
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I'm ready to order it now. Their turn around time is about 3 weeks right now.
Just waiting to get a few details worked out to finalize the order.
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Damn, that sounds SWEET Chad!!! Or it will when you stick a 248/256, 613/625, 110 LSA solid roller in it. Got the plate for it too. 440 LSX
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Thanks Mark.

I'm on youtube pacifying myself watching various z06's spanking others.
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That will be sick. Not sure you NEED all that for the street titanium valves and all, but if you can why not.

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Originally Posted by firehawk618
Here's some details on what I am about 90% sure i'm getting...still a few details to work out.

440ci LS7 "El Toro Grande" Short Block Assembly w/Flat Top Pistons (-8cc) which consists of:

LS7 Aluminum Block
4.127" Bore
Flat Top Pistons
4.100" Stroke, 4340 Crank
Scat H-Beams 6.125" Rods
Manley 2618 Forged Pistons
HD Tool Steel Pins
Akerly & Childs Ductile Moly Rings

and to top it off....

LS7 CNC Ported Heads with Intake 2.200” Titanium, Exhaust 1.610” Stainless with Titanium Retainers

Loaded LS7 Intake, 90mm cable driven tb,

Big fat cam "specs to be determined"
I can give that a big THUMBS UP! If it's in the budget I think it's a great street motor. I like the extra stroke for a lower broader power band. Can't wait til you get that thing going. Sounds like the NW is heating up with some nice LSX stuff.
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Originally Posted by Speed Density
LT1 is are fast

Really? Prove it!
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Here's my sugestion:

Forged Iron Block 370
Baby Cam (236/236 113lsa .580" lift)
Ported 317 heads

83lb injectors
Big *** fuel Pump

Topped off with a Turbo Tech Hairdrier kit

It'll put you a little more in the hole (but not much) and deliver 800+ at the wheels.
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You run a 113 lsa cam with a turbo? Talk about out of the box.....didn't the "experts" tell you that won't work?
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Originally Posted by firehawk618
Here's some details on what I am about 90% sure i'm getting...still a few details to work out.

440ci LS7 "El Toro Grande" Short Block Assembly w/Flat Top Pistons (-8cc) which consists of:

LS7 Aluminum Block
4.127" Bore
Flat Top Pistons
4.100" Stroke, 4340 Crank
Scat H-Beams 6.125" Rods
Manley 2618 Forged Pistons
HD Tool Steel Pins
Akerly & Childs Ductile Moly Rings

and to top it off....

LS7 CNC Ported Heads with Intake 2.200” Titanium, Exhaust 1.610” Stainless with Titanium Retainers

Loaded LS7 Intake, 90mm cable driven tb,

Big fat cam "specs to be determined"

Nice! I think you'll like that better.

SDPC do I get commision for the up-sell?

You guys go and blow a gasket because I suggested that he would like a different setup. I never di'ssed Scoggins. I suggested another opinion. Always good to get more than one point of view. Maybe I helped maybe not. If you dont like my advice then put me on ignore. Thats what I do to the guys I dont like.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
You guys go and blow a gasket because I suggested that he would like a different setup. I never di'ssed Scoggins. I suggested another opinion. Always good to get more than one point of view. Maybe I helped maybe not. If you dont like my advice then put me on ignore. Thats what I do to the guys I dont like.

I think he wanted advice from people that run a car and not a dyno.

Relax a bit, people appreciate your input, but you can't run down a particular setup when you don't know his goals. That's like if he was asking for a good heads/cam package you came in and said WTF? that builds no torque, you need a 402.
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Originally Posted by Ryan K
Here's my sugestion:

Forged Iron Block 370
Baby Cam (236/236 113lsa .580" lift)
Ported 317 heads

83lb injectors
Big *** fuel Pump

Topped off with a Turbo Tech Hairdrier kit

It'll put you a little more in the hole (but not much) and deliver 800+ at the wheels.
4.3 VORTECH V-6 Naturally aspirated!!!! Good fuel economy, all the RICERS would think you are PIMP... Pretty Fly for a white guy!!!
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
4.3 VORTECH V-6 Naturally aspirated!!!! Good fuel economy, all the RICERS would think you are PIMP... Pretty Fly for a white guy!!!
And Ryan even has a muffler that will work with that...
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Ok, back to the very first post here. Almost positive that's what i'm going to go with. Just trying to figure out what upgrades to get now, need to get a cam picked out with supporting hardware, etc etc.

Would love to know if that motor includes the fuel rails and injectors as pictured.
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You gonna stick with the L92 complete? I still say it's the best bang for the buck for a street car. Call Rick@Synergy for the cam if you go with the L92 heads/L76 intake. He will spec you something. I still think that setup is atleast $3-4K cheaper than the LS7 route.

Or you can do what I did and buy the L92 shortblock and get some cathedral port heads (TFS235's). The exact same engine with fairly mild cam in the dyno section put up 540-550 rwhp with gobs of torque.
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
You run a 113 lsa cam with a turbo? Talk about out of the box.....didn't the "experts" tell you that won't work?

Which experts are you quoting? LOL.

And a 113lsa on a turbo car works just fine .

http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Camshafts.htm

If you have a well matched turbo for the engine and application, it is a different deal altogether. A well matched turbine housing on the turbo will usually work well with cams with a lobe separation in the 112-114° area.
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Originally Posted by WAHUSKER
And Ryan even has a muffler that will work with that...
Hell, I even have a 4.3l Vortech! My S-10 is Vortech Powad! and it PWNS U!
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ya kno....id go with a 89 5.0 with tbi....lol just kidding


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