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Old 05-21-2008, 10:05 AM
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this kid at my school just got a 94 z 28. i said that has lt1 in it right? he said no its an lt4. i say oh ok and kinda just let it go. later i was asking what he had. he said headers, but i need to get new ones cuz these ones dont flow well , i got cams (yes he said cams) and cold air intake. it makes 370 whp and 450 hp at the crank. i say cool whats it run. he goes well the guy before me raced it before when it had about 80 hp less (290 whp) and he went 12.9 on street tires so i think it will run low 12s.
i then asked if he had heads and he said oh ya i forgot.

any input? im just simply confused about his logic


now after all that is said i must say the car is very nice for what it is. its dark grey with black ss stripes, has a tv in the center console and looks pretty clean
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LT4 was only available in the SS model in 1997.
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Just a kid who wants to talk...
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ask him if he wants to race
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There is a set up that you can make a LT1 an LT4 but it runs nearly $2k for the kit.
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
LT4 was only available in the SS model in 1997.

I'm not a LTx expert, but was there also a firehawk model available with the LT4 also?
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
LT4 was only available in the SS model in 1997.
My car was only available as a non turbo 302.
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The LS6 never came in an F-Body either, but mine has one. You could get the LT4 as a crate engine or you could buy the parts and convert it.
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There is a set up that you can make a LT1 an LT4 but it runs nearly $2k for the kit.
Nope, that LT4-topend kit only comes with Heads, intake, and a hotcam (a bit more aggressive than the LT4's baby cam).... but it STILL wouldn't be a LT4.

LT4's were 4-bolt mains.
LT4's had lighter, stronger cranks.
LT4's had EGR delete. (the conversion kit may do that, but you'd have to program it out to pass a OBDII scan if installing on a 96/97 LT1... and I belive that's techincally illegal).
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Originally Posted by Ackattack1
I'm not a LTx expert, but was there also a firehawk model available with the LT4 also?
Yep, those are even more rare. SLP planned on selling 100 of them (like the SS's), but only ~22 made it out the door I belive.
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
The LS6 never came in an F-Body either, but mine has one. You could get the LT4 as a crate engine or you could buy the parts and convert it.
Yeah, but the cost of buying an LT4 crank and block makes a "swap" pointless. A decent LT1 heads/cam car can beat teh **** out of a LT4 any day and for less cash. Even if someone wasted their money to "make" an LT4, the fact is that their VIN nubmer, and the VIN number on the engine block would prove otherwise.

A custom-built LT1 is just that... a custom built LT1... you're not going to get GM to retitle the car or redesignate the engine for you... it's an LT1.
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Originally Posted by 67camarors
it makes 370 whp and 450 hp at the crank. i say cool whats it run. he goes well the guy before me raced it before when it had about 80 hp less (290 whp) and he went 12.9 on street tires so i think it will run low 12s.
12.9 could mean 12.99...
on "street tires" could mean drag radials...
and "80 hp less" could mean 80 less at the crank (370 crank...310 rwhp?).

Not saying he isn't talking out his ***, but a really light 4th gen with 310 rwhp and drag radials may have a chance... but I wouldn't bet on it unless it was lightened-up and had a high stall, gears, and a tail wind.

But it sounds like he's talking for the sake of noise.
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Tell that guy your car has an LTB--B meaning "bitch don't **** with me and read your manual"
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Hey Jimmy's 94 Z28 has a LT4 in it
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Originally Posted by Ackattack1
I'm not a LTx expert, but was there also a firehawk model available with the LT4 also?
Yes, that is correct. They only made 29 of them.... he said the guy's car was a Camaro Z28, though.. and that's what I was referring to.
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Originally Posted by NVME
My car was only available as a non turbo 302.
Here you go.
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
Here you go.
I'll take that.. Since I have this



























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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
Here you go.


Awwww...thanks! Here's some you'll like.

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Originally Posted by Steve in Seattle
Yeah, but the cost of buying an LT4 crank and block makes a "swap" pointless. A decent LT1 heads/cam car can beat teh **** out of a LT4 any day and for less cash. Even if someone wasted their money to "make" an LT4, the fact is that their VIN nubmer, and the VIN number on the engine block would prove otherwise.

A custom-built LT1 is just that... a custom built LT1... you're not going to get GM to retitle the car or redesignate the engine for you... it's an LT1.
I did leave out that it wasn't a very good idea for the money that would be involved.
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
Here you go.
Shouldn't your car be running 14's somewhere?


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