Clash of the Titan's Shootout, Sponsored by Cartek
01-20-2004, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
It's all about quickest/fastest cars in the nation at the same track, in the same air, on the same day...no excuses. 
01-21-2004, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bspz28
Hey Moose it will be great to see you down there .. Rematch time 
hey i got a little something for you this time.. Just need to get it back..
01-21-2004, 11:24 AM
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It's not like the ET/mph is influenced by the RT so why not include it? You can all compare timeslips after the race to see who was the fastest on that day.
Without factoring reaction time for the win it would get terribly boring.
Why not first to the line wins? You can always compare the ET/mph afterwards. The point is getting all the cars to the same track on the same day. RT has nothing to do with it and removing it takes away almost all the excitement!
Without factoring reaction time for the win it would get terribly boring.
Why not first to the line wins? You can always compare the ET/mph afterwards. The point is getting all the cars to the same track on the same day. RT has nothing to do with it and removing it takes away almost all the excitement!
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01-22-2004, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Mike
These are the official rules and classes for the "CLASH OF THE TITANS" Tuner shootout , presented by Cartek . The event will be held at http://www.carolinadragway.com It will happen on Sunday February 22nd 2004. There will be a 75.00 entry fee per car if paid in advance, or 125.00 if you pay at the gate. Spectators will be charged 15.00 , kids under age 12 will be free. There will be cash payouts in all classes , the amount will be determined by the number of pre-paid entrants and the number of supporting sponsors we get.
General rules:
1. All cars must be IHRA legal for their ET and MPH.
2. Any octane “gasoline” will be permitted.
3. All classes will be in a heads up fashion, reaction time does not matter.
4. Each class needs a minimum of 8 cars, if that quota is not met, automatic and manual cars will be combined into one single class for that class only.
5. C-5s will race C-5s and F-bodies will race F-bodies, with the exception of the Unlimited Class.
6. Because of availability, AFR heads and LSX intakes will not be allowed unless they are readily available 6 weeks prior to the event. This rule does not apply to the “Unlimited Class”.
7. There will be time permitting six time shots. The fastest of your six time shots will be used to determine the winner of their class. If for any reason you make less than six passes, the fastest of those passes will be used to determine the winner.
8. After each pass, all cars must be weighed in and inspected by event officials or that shot time will not be valid.
Pure Street N/A:
This is for “N/A Heads and Cam” Minimum race weight 3250 LBS.
1. Stock GM short block. Stock GM crank, rods and pistons.
No aftermarket pistons, stock bore. Valve relief’s and rod bolts will be allowed.
2. Any GM LS1 or LS6 heads, no C5R heads.1
3. LS1 and LS6 intakes only, modifications to intakes will be allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Factory production transmission only, IE M6, M12 or 4L60E.
6. Any gear ratio in the stock style rear.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs will be allowed for tire clearance only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires are to be DOT approved with a maximum section with of 11.5 inches.
10. Manual trans. VS Manual trans., Auto. VS Auto. Unless class limitations rule differently.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Pure Street Power Adder:
This class is for 346 “Stock CID with a power adder”. Minimum race weight of 3250lbs.
1. Stock block can be bored .005 and fitted with after market pistons and rods.
2. Any GM production LS1 and LS6. C5R will not be allowed.1
3. LS1, LS6, and Holley intakes only, modifications to intakes are allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
6. Any gear ratio in the stock style rear.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5 section wide on DOT tire or 10.5 wide tread width on drag slicks.
10. Any single power adder allowed.
11. Manual VS Manual, A4 VS A4. Unless class limitations rule differently.
12. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Advance displacement N/A:
This class is for any N/A Strokers. Minimum race weight of 3250lbs.
1. Any GM block, any bore, any stroke, any displacement.
2. Any GM production LS1 and LS6 heads, no C5R.1
3. GM LS1 and LS6 intakes, modifications allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Any gear ration in a stock style rear.
6. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, M12, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5 section width on a DOT tire or 10.5 wide tread width on drag slicks.
10. No power adders allowed.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Advanced displacement Power Adder:
This class is for Stroker engines with a single power adder. Minimum race weight of 3400lbs.
1. Any GM block, any bore, any stroke, any displacement.
2. Any GM production LS1 or LS6 heads, no C5R heads.1
3. GM LS1 and LS6 intakes, modifications to the intakes are allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Any gear ration in a stock style rear.
6. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, M12, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5”section width on DOT or 10.5 tread width on drag slicks.
10. Single power adder of any size will be allowed.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Unlimited Class
All LS1 Cars in this class, C5, and Fbodies.
The rules are simple. 3100 LBS, LS1 based engine, 11” maximum tread width slicks, Stock style suspension, factory mounting points must be retained, wheelie bars will be allowed, all heads, intakes, multiple power adders, all GM transmitions, no Lencos, Liberties, Gericos, etc. Leave the excuses home run what you brung.
** Tear down rule: If some one wants to protest a car, the protester puts up $1000. The protested car must remove one cylinder head for short block inspection, or other necessary parts (for nitrous inspection) in front of and inspected by an official. If the car is found legal, the protester must pay the money to the cars owner. If the car is found illegal, the protester keeps the money and the car is disqualified. If the protested car refuses to comply, the car is disqualified.**
Note 1: FAST intakes are allowed in all classes if released 6 weeks prior to the event.
Note 2: AFR heads are allowed in all classes, except NA and PA Pure Street, if released 6 weeks prior to the event.
General rules:
1. All cars must be IHRA legal for their ET and MPH.
2. Any octane “gasoline” will be permitted.
3. All classes will be in a heads up fashion, reaction time does not matter.
4. Each class needs a minimum of 8 cars, if that quota is not met, automatic and manual cars will be combined into one single class for that class only.
5. C-5s will race C-5s and F-bodies will race F-bodies, with the exception of the Unlimited Class.
6. Because of availability, AFR heads and LSX intakes will not be allowed unless they are readily available 6 weeks prior to the event. This rule does not apply to the “Unlimited Class”.
7. There will be time permitting six time shots. The fastest of your six time shots will be used to determine the winner of their class. If for any reason you make less than six passes, the fastest of those passes will be used to determine the winner.
8. After each pass, all cars must be weighed in and inspected by event officials or that shot time will not be valid.
Pure Street N/A:
This is for “N/A Heads and Cam” Minimum race weight 3250 LBS.
1. Stock GM short block. Stock GM crank, rods and pistons.
No aftermarket pistons, stock bore. Valve relief’s and rod bolts will be allowed.
2. Any GM LS1 or LS6 heads, no C5R heads.1
3. LS1 and LS6 intakes only, modifications to intakes will be allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Factory production transmission only, IE M6, M12 or 4L60E.
6. Any gear ratio in the stock style rear.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs will be allowed for tire clearance only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires are to be DOT approved with a maximum section with of 11.5 inches.
10. Manual trans. VS Manual trans., Auto. VS Auto. Unless class limitations rule differently.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Pure Street Power Adder:
This class is for 346 “Stock CID with a power adder”. Minimum race weight of 3250lbs.
1. Stock block can be bored .005 and fitted with after market pistons and rods.
2. Any GM production LS1 and LS6. C5R will not be allowed.1
3. LS1, LS6, and Holley intakes only, modifications to intakes are allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
6. Any gear ratio in the stock style rear.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5 section wide on DOT tire or 10.5 wide tread width on drag slicks.
10. Any single power adder allowed.
11. Manual VS Manual, A4 VS A4. Unless class limitations rule differently.
12. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Advance displacement N/A:
This class is for any N/A Strokers. Minimum race weight of 3250lbs.
1. Any GM block, any bore, any stroke, any displacement.
2. Any GM production LS1 and LS6 heads, no C5R.1
3. GM LS1 and LS6 intakes, modifications allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Any gear ration in a stock style rear.
6. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, M12, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5 section width on a DOT tire or 10.5 wide tread width on drag slicks.
10. No power adders allowed.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Advanced displacement Power Adder:
This class is for Stroker engines with a single power adder. Minimum race weight of 3400lbs.
1. Any GM block, any bore, any stroke, any displacement.
2. Any GM production LS1 or LS6 heads, no C5R heads.1
3. GM LS1 and LS6 intakes, modifications to the intakes are allowed.2
4. Hydraulic and solid roller cams, any timing chains will be allowed.
5. Any gear ration in a stock style rear.
6. Factory production transmission only, IE T56, M12, 4L60E, TH400, ect.
7. Stock style suspension, mini tubs allowed for tire clearence only. All factory mounting locations must be retained. No wheelie bars.
8. Any exhaust system will be allowed. Exhaust systems must meet track decibel limitations.
9. Tires must be a maximum of 12.5”section width on DOT or 10.5 tread width on drag slicks.
10. Single power adder of any size will be allowed.
11. ** Tear down rule will be in effect! **
Unlimited Class
All LS1 Cars in this class, C5, and Fbodies.
The rules are simple. 3100 LBS, LS1 based engine, 11” maximum tread width slicks, Stock style suspension, factory mounting points must be retained, wheelie bars will be allowed, all heads, intakes, multiple power adders, all GM transmitions, no Lencos, Liberties, Gericos, etc. Leave the excuses home run what you brung.
** Tear down rule: If some one wants to protest a car, the protester puts up $1000. The protested car must remove one cylinder head for short block inspection, or other necessary parts (for nitrous inspection) in front of and inspected by an official. If the car is found legal, the protester must pay the money to the cars owner. If the car is found illegal, the protester keeps the money and the car is disqualified. If the protested car refuses to comply, the car is disqualified.**
Note 1: FAST intakes are allowed in all classes if released 6 weeks prior to the event.
Note 2: AFR heads are allowed in all classes, except NA and PA Pure Street, if released 6 weeks prior to the event.
01-24-2004, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear
No excuses seems like the tree should be in effect. NO EXCUSES.
How does being quicker at the lights prove what a tuner has done with the LS1 motor/car set up?
That IS what this event is about after all...if you need want/need a tree to win a race (which I will agree is the traditional way things are normally done) then there are plenty of events out there for that. This is a tuner shootout.
01-26-2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Since when did the tree add power to one's car?
How does being quicker at the lights prove what a tuner has done with the LS1 motor/car set up?
That IS what this event is about after all...if you need want/need a tree to win a race (which I will agree is the traditional way things are normally done) then there are plenty of events out there for that. This is a tuner shootout.
How does being quicker at the lights prove what a tuner has done with the LS1 motor/car set up?
That IS what this event is about after all...if you need want/need a tree to win a race (which I will agree is the traditional way things are normally done) then there are plenty of events out there for that. This is a tuner shootout.
The ET/mph is there regardless and is unaffected by RT.
The fastest cars will have the fastest ET/mph. Seems simple to me?
02-06-2004, 08:07 AM
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then why even risk having side by side racing just get one lane it cost ya less and run 6 passes fastest time and mph wins even better lets just rent a airport put in a g-tech and see who clock's the best on it that will make it a boring as can be
if you realy want to do it that way then it should be a points system like 5 points for high et/mph and 5 points for best average of the 6 times cause i know alot of people that can clip off one good pass and then never run it again tuners car should make the power to the track every time and if there is a tie then the 2 cars can have a run off make it fun like that just to let you know fun and some competition will bring people to the track
"stock bottom end" 
just get one lane it cost ya less and run 6 passes fastest time and mph wins even better lets just rent a airport put in a g-tech and see who clock's the best on it that will make it a boring as can be if you realy want to do it that way then it should be a points system like 5 points for high et/mph and 5 points for best average of the 6 times cause i know alot of people that can clip off one good pass and then never run it again tuners car should make the power to the track every time and if there is a tie then the 2 cars can have a run off make it fun like that just to let you know fun and some competition will bring people to the track
"stock bottom end"
02-07-2004, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 2002nhraformula
then why even risk having side by side racing just get one lane it cost ya less and run 6 passes fastest time and mph wins even better lets just rent a airport put in a g-tech and see who clock's the best on it that will make it a boring as can be
just get one lane it cost ya less and run 6 passes fastest time and mph wins even better lets just rent a airport put in a g-tech and see who clock's the best on it that will make it a boring as can be That's a driver's shoutout then.
02-25-2004, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
So better have an event where a great driver in a 12 second car can beat an average driver in an 11.5 second car?
That's a driver's shoutout then.
That's a driver's shoutout then.
