how fast will the quickest be at hot rod drag week?
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the stall will be the same down the highway because of the lock up. i am sure we could squeeze a little more mileage out of it but at anything above 15-1 it doesn't run vary smooth, it misses. i dont care about mileage anyways. 28gallons x 12mpg = 336miles per tank. thats prety decent range. we should be able to find amocos or some other 92octane fuel along the way.
it wont be a cheap week, figure $75/day for fuel and probably another $75/day for a room. then add food, maybe a touch of race fuel(we could bring an entire barrel) or nitrous. better bring a little meth.
is it ok to drive nitto dr's 300miles in a day? they dont get hot or anything like that do they?
it wont be a cheap week, figure $75/day for fuel and probably another $75/day for a room. then add food, maybe a touch of race fuel(we could bring an entire barrel) or nitrous. better bring a little meth.
is it ok to drive nitto dr's 300miles in a day? they dont get hot or anything like that do they?
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You can drive on nittos all the time, just don't expect them to last very long. I think after a few burnouts and about 10-11K miles I wore a set out on my car. They are fine to drive on though.
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well, I am tentatively planning on making the trek. mid 10's on motor, not sure yet on the spray, but I have a stand alone wet/dry 2 stage. plan on taking a set of street tires to swap out for the highway driving (rear only), jack, basic tools and some other basic parts that may break. I think if I can run mid/high 9's on spray I think I can be very competive, based on the Pump Gas Drags results. I have a brand new clutch, T56 and freshly fully built 408, so hopefully that will all stay together. I'll just have to take it easy on it till then. only thing I'm need to do is convert to a full cage by then. I'm sure they'll be slicklers on saftey crap. I'm tuned for pump gas on motor, and run 104 in the stand alone. I think I've got a good setup for it.
wish I hadn't just ditched the cruise
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Part of the reason I'm also likely to do it is that it starts in KC and I live there
wish I hadn't just ditched the cruise
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Part of the reason I'm also likely to do it is that it starts in KC and I live there
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I'd think it'd be faster than 10's.. Just imagine if there is no limit on cubes. A mountain motor could roll in making 800hp with a streetable idle and run 9's on motor alone, much less forced induction. Hard to beat big cubes with glide/th400 and a 9". Plus with the allowance of tools it wouldn't be very difficult to change centersections from like.. 3.55's to 4.10's in no time at all.. Or put 30"-32" m/t street tires to drive on to keep the rpms down, and swap back to 27-28" for the track. Either way.. the ability to change parts makes it too easy of a task. But it will be interesting. One thing is for sure, every event I've ever heard is supposed to have all these badass cars.. and none ever show.. So if you think you can last the time running 10's.. then do it.. You might get lucky and a few of the 9 sec cars break down and you place high.
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Originally Posted by distortion_69
I'd think it'd be faster than 10's.. Just imagine if there is no limit on cubes. A mountain motor could roll in making 800hp with a streetable idle and run 9's on motor alone, much less forced induction. Hard to beat big cubes with glide/th400 and a 9". Plus with the allowance of tools it wouldn't be very difficult to change centersections from like.. 3.55's to 4.10's in no time at all.. Or put 30"-32" m/t street tires to drive on to keep the rpms down, and swap back to 27-28" for the track. Either way.. the ability to change parts makes it too easy of a task. But it will be interesting.
My observations as a spectator to a lot of "True Street" events is EXACTLY what you said here:
One thing is for sure, every event I've ever heard is supposed to have all these badass cars.. and none ever show.. So if you think you can last the time running 10's.. then do it.. You might get lucky and a few of the 9 sec cars break down and you place high.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I bet some big dogs from PGD will try, and they will have chaser vehicles if they break down.
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hell if i would of know sooner--i would of followed ya with my camper and we could of slept in that! shower full kitchen and i toilet! all we need!
When is this?
When is this?
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Originally Posted by Fandango
That'd be freaking great. The drag vehicle TOWING the trailer.
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i probably wont overload on parts. there are just too many little things that can go wrong it would be hard to plan for everything and the thing you dont plan on is what would break. i think we will just hit the road with a nice set of basic tools and a few basic parts. if the tranny or one of the diff's let go then we will give up and find a way home.
i am not sure what to do with the rear. i hope to have a 9.5" front and some strong 1/2 shafts in there by then but in the rear i am not sure what route to take with it. i could slap in a 2500 rear, can you just get the axles redrilled so i can use the same wheels? with a strong front and rear and some stickies who knows what this thing might run but that is a lot of work(money) and i dont know if it will all get done by then.
i am not sure what to do with the rear. i hope to have a 9.5" front and some strong 1/2 shafts in there by then but in the rear i am not sure what route to take with it. i could slap in a 2500 rear, can you just get the axles redrilled so i can use the same wheels? with a strong front and rear and some stickies who knows what this thing might run but that is a lot of work(money) and i dont know if it will all get done by then.
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GM has never put together a 6-lug version of the 9.5" with discs... until now. The Trailblazer SS will have one but that will be too narrow for use in a full-size. The parts are out there.
It won't be simple but it's got to be possible. There are two bolt patterns for the flanges at the ends of the tubes. If you can find out which 9.5" rear has the same flange pattern your 10-bolt does (if any) then it will be possible bolt your brakes right up to it. If the housing turns out to have 8-lug axles in it that's no big deal - you can buy new 6x5.5" lug pattern ones with the correct 78.3mm hub and M14-1.5 lug studs already installed. Considering the cost of filling, machining, re-drilling, and then turning down the hubs on 8-lug axles I think replacing them is the way to go. (Machine shops take too damn long anyway!)
All the rest of the crap is easy to change - spring perches, shock mounts, driveshaft yoke and length, etc. All that matters is the brakes. Overcome that and it's good to go.
I haven't seen anyone else go the route of 9.5" on a NBS half-ton. It will be interesting to see what happens. I can tell you the 9.5" won't hold up it you ever go 2WD and get some real traction. They're still C-Clip rears and those housings do flex.
It won't be simple but it's got to be possible. There are two bolt patterns for the flanges at the ends of the tubes. If you can find out which 9.5" rear has the same flange pattern your 10-bolt does (if any) then it will be possible bolt your brakes right up to it. If the housing turns out to have 8-lug axles in it that's no big deal - you can buy new 6x5.5" lug pattern ones with the correct 78.3mm hub and M14-1.5 lug studs already installed. Considering the cost of filling, machining, re-drilling, and then turning down the hubs on 8-lug axles I think replacing them is the way to go. (Machine shops take too damn long anyway!)
All the rest of the crap is easy to change - spring perches, shock mounts, driveshaft yoke and length, etc. All that matters is the brakes. Overcome that and it's good to go.
I haven't seen anyone else go the route of 9.5" on a NBS half-ton. It will be interesting to see what happens. I can tell you the 9.5" won't hold up it you ever go 2WD and get some real traction. They're still C-Clip rears and those housings do flex.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I will say the "average" will be somewhere in the tens, this is an excellent way to seperate the race and streetcars, your truck will definately be in the hunt. You have the ultimate setup you can carry everything you need, let us know how you do.
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Iplan on makeing this event and i run consitna high 8s
a event like this is actualy easier on my car then the hot rod pump gas drags was.
highwaymiles are cake due to the ariflow and nice constant rpm.. much easier then the 30 mile drive of the pgd in 5 pm trafic.
also thsi event you are allowed to run race gas at the track so there is nothing to stop me from turnigntheboost down driving between tracks then putinginthegas and turning it up to 28 psi and runing mid 8s at each track.
i also know of at least ONE SEVEN second car that is planign to atempt this
turbo cars do not need large cams my hyd roller cam will easily handle 1000 miles
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Originally Posted by turbosaleen
lol not achance in hell
Iplan on makeing this event and i run consitna high 8s
a event like this is actualy easier on my car then the hot rod pump gas drags was.
highwaymiles are cake due to the ariflow and nice constant rpm.. much easier then the 30 mile drive of the pgd in 5 pm trafic.
also thsi event you are allowed to run race gas at the track so there is nothing to stop me from turnigntheboost down driving between tracks then putinginthegas and turning it up to 28 psi and runing mid 8s at each track.
i also know of at least ONE SEVEN second car that is planign to atempt this
turbo cars do not need large cams my hyd roller cam will easily handle 1000 miles
Iplan on makeing this event and i run consitna high 8s
a event like this is actualy easier on my car then the hot rod pump gas drags was.
highwaymiles are cake due to the ariflow and nice constant rpm.. much easier then the 30 mile drive of the pgd in 5 pm trafic.
also thsi event you are allowed to run race gas at the track so there is nothing to stop me from turnigntheboost down driving between tracks then putinginthegas and turning it up to 28 psi and runing mid 8s at each track.
i also know of at least ONE SEVEN second car that is planign to atempt this
turbo cars do not need large cams my hyd roller cam will easily handle 1000 miles
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Yes there will be some fast cars out there, whether this fast or not, well...that's why they run the race right?
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WAs wondering when the "I run 8s" crew was going to chime in.
All I can say is, I hope your combo holds together. Because all the "True Street" events I attend, the high 8-sec cars are barely streetable - if you run 8s even with a turbo, you're well over 1000HP right? I will love seeing this on the cruise - hope to see you there!!!
All I can say is, I hope your combo holds together. Because all the "True Street" events I attend, the high 8-sec cars are barely streetable - if you run 8s even with a turbo, you're well over 1000HP right? I will love seeing this on the cruise - hope to see you there!!!
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Originally Posted by turbosaleen
lol not achance in hell
Iplan on makeing this event and i run consitna high 8s
a event like this is actualy easier on my car then the hot rod pump gas drags was.
highwaymiles are cake due to the ariflow and nice constant rpm.. much easier then the 30 mile drive of the pgd in 5 pm trafic.
also thsi event you are allowed to run race gas at the track so there is nothing to stop me from turnigntheboost down driving between tracks then putinginthegas and turning it up to 28 psi and runing mid 8s at each track.
i also know of at least ONE SEVEN second car that is planign to atempt this
turbo cars do not need large cams my hyd roller cam will easily handle 1000 miles
Iplan on makeing this event and i run consitna high 8s
a event like this is actualy easier on my car then the hot rod pump gas drags was.
highwaymiles are cake due to the ariflow and nice constant rpm.. much easier then the 30 mile drive of the pgd in 5 pm trafic.
also thsi event you are allowed to run race gas at the track so there is nothing to stop me from turnigntheboost down driving between tracks then putinginthegas and turning it up to 28 psi and runing mid 8s at each track.
i also know of at least ONE SEVEN second car that is planign to atempt this
turbo cars do not need large cams my hyd roller cam will easily handle 1000 miles
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Parish, really glad you'll come. Should be way neat. And here's an announcement I just made that makes it more worth it for "slower" guys to show up.
There will be an announcement coming in the magazine, but here's the news now: We have broken Drag Week competition into five easy classes to encourage more guys to come out and have fun even if they think they can't compete with the big dogs. We'll name winners in each class, as well as an overall event winner with the best overall average. The classes are:
- Daily Driver: This is for all cars running slower than 12.000. The car with the weeklong average closest to 12.000 wins. Cars in this class cannot compete for the overall win.
- Naturally Asprirated Small-Block, 423ci and smaller
- Naturally Aspirated Big-Block, 424ci and bigger
- Boost/Nitrous Small-Block, 423ci and smaller
- Boost/Nitrous Big-Block, 424ci and bigger
As a reminder, the event is a week of drag racing with five tracks in five days, and the winners are determined by lowest average e.t. over five days. Rules are in HOT ROD Magazine and HOTROD.com. Here's the schedule:
Sept 11 Kickoff in Kansas City
Sept 12, Kansas City International Raceway
Sept 13 Gateway
Sept 14 Beech Bend
Sept 15 National Trail
Sept 16 Martin, MI
It's $125 to preregister before August 15 at 877/413-6515, or $150 on site at Kansas City. Spectators are free.
DF
There will be an announcement coming in the magazine, but here's the news now: We have broken Drag Week competition into five easy classes to encourage more guys to come out and have fun even if they think they can't compete with the big dogs. We'll name winners in each class, as well as an overall event winner with the best overall average. The classes are:
- Daily Driver: This is for all cars running slower than 12.000. The car with the weeklong average closest to 12.000 wins. Cars in this class cannot compete for the overall win.
- Naturally Asprirated Small-Block, 423ci and smaller
- Naturally Aspirated Big-Block, 424ci and bigger
- Boost/Nitrous Small-Block, 423ci and smaller
- Boost/Nitrous Big-Block, 424ci and bigger
As a reminder, the event is a week of drag racing with five tracks in five days, and the winners are determined by lowest average e.t. over five days. Rules are in HOT ROD Magazine and HOTROD.com. Here's the schedule:
Sept 11 Kickoff in Kansas City
Sept 12, Kansas City International Raceway
Sept 13 Gateway
Sept 14 Beech Bend
Sept 15 National Trail
Sept 16 Martin, MI
It's $125 to preregister before August 15 at 877/413-6515, or $150 on site at Kansas City. Spectators are free.
DF
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Congrats Jim Parish, saw your little write up in Hot Rod magazine i got today!
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