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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Can anyone tell me how a chrome moly tube brace is lighter than the existing OEM Styrofoam nose and supporting parts for the bumper-That's what it claims on their website, It doesn't seem correct. I've already removed the OEM PARTS.

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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Why dont you call Chuck and ask him. ------------------------------>
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Why dont you call Chuck and ask him. ------------------------------>
yeah I guess-off topic-I like your wheels & tires -what wheel/tire size Frt/rear? & brand?

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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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billet specialtie street lite 15x10 rear, 15x3.5 front, rear mt/28x10.5, front mt sportsmans. Also the rear is narrowed 3" on each side.

If your seriously interested in getting one, or wanting to know more call Chuck up, he will have any and all answers your looking for dude.
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will do-thanks
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Isn't it the whole bumper support, like the metal half of it as well, I believe some metal comes away with it. And you gotta think....that styrofoam isn't your run of the mill styrofoam airplane stuff, it has to be able to absorb the shock of a collision, its pretty dense stuff. Then think of hollow chrome moly tubes, which are quite light if you have ever held any.
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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 04:05 AM
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Isn't it the whole bumper support, like the metal half of it as well, I believe some metal comes away with it. And you gotta think....that styrofoam isn't your run of the mill styrofoam airplane stuff, it has to be able to absorb the shock of a collision, its pretty dense stuff. Then think of hollow chrome moly tubes, which are quite light if you have ever held any.
Yup. It replaces EVERYTHING up front. I'm betting you didn't remove the crash bar that mounts to the frame horns. THAT is where it bolts...Pretty easy for it to be lighter once you actually REMOVE everything...
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There is a significant weight savings on this piece. As stated above, the metal crash bar across the frame horns weighs the most.
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Yup. It replaces EVERYTHING up front. I'm betting you didn't remove the crash bar that mounts to the frame horns. THAT is where it bolts...Pretty easy for it to be lighter once you actually REMOVE everything...
Yeah now that you mention it I did remove the crash bar, it's been quite a while ago. I sent the car to Xtreme Horsepower solutions last Feb 10 for a complete engine,suspension & chassis build-the car is coming home next month so now I have to get the nose reassembled.
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Would this mess anything up with the airbag if I got that support brace?
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It states for "Off Road use only" -so I would guess the airbag option would be null & void. Like our friend said best we call Chuck from Burkhart to answer our questions.
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Originally Posted by SHORTZ A KILLA
Can anyone tell me how a chrome moly tube brace is lighter than the existing OEM Styrofoam nose and supporting parts for the bumper-That's what it claims on their website, It doesn't seem correct. I've already removed the OEM PARTS.

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That big *** peice of stamped steel that the foam is attached to is very heavy. That is where the weight savings is at.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Thanks I'll be calling very soon to order the powdercoated brace -is it a pretty staight forward bolt on? Any fabrication or mod to attach the plastic nose assembly?-Thanks
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So what does the tube bumper support actually weigh compared to the factory one?
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It is a straight bolt on. we use the factory push pins at the top to secure the nose. You can cut the bottom flap off if you want.

The support is ~10 pounds. The factory one weighs 20 - 25 depending on who you listen to. we could make ours lighter but then the tubing would not pass NHRA tech for a fluid enclosure. we mount fuel cells, Intercoolers, and Radiators in them.
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What does this brace have anything to do with airbags? The airbag sensor is under the passenger seat....... There are no sensors in the front bumper.
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Old Mar 5, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Burger
It is a straight bolt on. we use the factory push pins at the top to secure the nose. You can cut the bottom flap off if you want.

The support is ~10 pounds. The factory one weighs 20 - 25 depending on who you listen to. we could make ours lighter but then the tubing would not pass NHRA tech for a fluid enclosure. we mount fuel cells, Intercoolers, and Radiators in them.
Whats the biggest intercooler y'all have used with it and what style?
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Originally Posted by TransWS6Am
What does this brace have anything to do with airbags? The airbag sensor is under the passenger seat....... There are no sensors in the front bumper.
And the one airbag sensor that is in the front end, is mounted to center of the core support in the hood latch area .
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Straight bolt on??? Like their nine inch? Better get a cut off wheel, a drill, and a hydra power to make it fit maybe a jack and a few jackstands to help twist it straight. Don't powder coat it until you get it mounted.
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^^^^^ bad experience I guess
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