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Old 07-16-2011, 12:30 AM
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i like Evercoat putty,take some 180 grit and sand the dent and feather the paint slightly around where the dent is( feathering is snding the edges of the repaired area to make a smoother transition) blow off the dust then mix a small amount of putty,i think evercoat is like 1 part hardner to 10 parts putty so a half dollor size of putty with a slightly smaller than dime size of hardner( note:with high temps it will harden faster, n should look light blue green when mixed)spread with a putty/bondo spreader. spread slightly past the dent area. after it hardens( 10-15 min) hardblock sand with 180 till the dents gone.repeat if nessasary.then sand with 320 past all your 180 scratches,then you will need to prime.
since you have a dent and need to prime feather out the peeling clear then prime it also.if its small amount use 320-400 on soft block then prime.
block all the primer once its dried with 500 with a block
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I use Evercoat Z-Grip. It's 50:1 mix with hardener.

OP, Follow the above directions. You are going to HAVE to get a good primer. SPIs Turbo Primer is really good stuff and can be used on direct metal.
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http://www.carcraft.com/howto/116_04...nt/index1.html
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It turns out my uncle had to take care of some business so I'm stuck with an unpainted car for another week. Well upon further inspection of my spoiler there is alot of fine scratches and I wanted to know if wetsanding with 400 would take care of them? I'm sorry I'm asking this and didn't try it for myself but I've been working quite a bit. The reason I ask because I had a friend look at it and said I should just go ahead and prime it. I want to know if that is really necessary because the scratches don't seem really bad and they don't catch on my finger nail except a few but not that bad. I was wondering if I could prime the panels myself with a little air compressor I have and a cheap gun. I just want to spray the primer myself and know if it requires a big compressor but I will be priming the panels separately and one each day.
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I wouldn't do it, but it could be done. Just wait it out and save yourself the work/haslte.
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So can
I still sand the scratches out?
Old 07-21-2011, 01:02 PM
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Yes but use a block so you don't have grooves and feather them out, start with 320-400 you will probably need to prime also but don't know how good your compressor is, if it's pretty decent even if it's a smaller one you can prime,I've used my buddy's 30 gal dewalt compressor to prime before just to do small stuff,make sure you have a water trap/filter for your gun
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Also 2-4 coats, 5 min in between coats on primer and try to not primer to the edges of the tape/masking paper cause you'll have primer edges n even when you sand them out after it's painted you can see them, say you masked off an area 2ft square keep it in side of it youll have some overspay that might hit the tape edge.but say your doing a whole panel like the door you can take it from edge to edge.
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I'm headed to home depot to get a 60 gallon compressor. Do you all think that is a decent size because I would like to primer my old chevy truck after I learn how to spray. What's a good spray gun you all would reccomend I could get at a cheap price to spray primer and paint. I've come to an agreement with my uncle that he would let me spray under his supervision, but until he gets back. I'm just going all the way with painting my car because I was thinking that there's nothing bad that can happen and it is my car that I picked up for cheap.So yeah I should be able to and besides if I need any help Ive got all of you guys helping me and I could also ask my uncle for help, but there's nothing like the satisfaction of doing it yourself.
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For primer that would work if you plan on painting n doing body work more often get a good compressor,like an ingersaw rand 60 gal is enough but you need at least 12 cfm at 90 psi the one I have is 18 cfm at 90 and works great, but you may find a cheaper one that will work for your needs, get a cheap primer gun but see if you uncle has some guns to let you paint the car with a good basecoat gun n clear gun
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I probably be painting alot just this car and my truck but that's after a while though.I was sanding my spoiler off the car and noticed spots when I was done wet sanding with 400 and I even began to see a primer spot, it is smooth though what should I do to it or am i ready to primer it?
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The absolute best gun you can buy for the money is a Astro EVO-T with a 1.4mm tip. It's an LVLP, so you will get a lot more "cover" for the amount of paint you spray, and will require a much smaller compressor than an HVLP. I still use this gun for ALL my budget jobs and used a 25gal $150 Harbor Freight compressor with it for years. In fact, those pics of the blue door and fender I posted earlier were sprayed with this gun. It's a VERY nice gun for the money. It's a quality Iwata LPH-400LV copy, which is a well-known and very good gun. Even the tip sets are interchangeable. I have never had any problems with it. Excellent beginner's gun. You can get it for about $100 shipped here:

http://www.spraygunworld.com/product...%20EVO4014.htm

For a primer gun, get a Harbor Freight cheapo with a 1.8mm tip. (The purple one.)

Be sure to get a GOOD moisture trap. It's extremely important. They're not too expensive but can make or break a job.

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Originally Posted by 98camaro28
The absolute best gun you can buy for the money is a Astro EVO-T with a 1.4mm tip. It's an LVLP, so you will get a lot more "cover" for the amount of paint you spray, and will require a much smaller compressor than an LVLP. I still use this gun for ALL my budget jobs and used a 25gal $150 Harbor Freight compressor with it for years. In fact, those pics of the blue door and fender I posted earlier were sprayed with this gun. It's a VERY nice gun for the money. It's a quality Iwata LPH-400LV copy, which is a well-known and very good gun. Even the tip sets are interchangeable. I have never had any problems with it. Excellent beginner's gun. You can get it for about $100 shipped here:

http://www.spraygunworld.com/product...%20EVO4014.htm

For a primer gun, get a Harbor Freight cheapo with either a 1.8mm tip. (The purple one.)

Be sure to get a GOOD moisture trap. It's extremely important. They're not too expensive but can make or break a job.
Thanks for the advice. I don't plan on doing any big jobs such as a total car repaint, just one part/panel at a time, so the cheap but effective setup above sounds like what I need.
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Hey everyone I finished sanding my spoiler and I started to come across factory primer. Is this bad ? I was just sanding with 400 and then started to see some. What should I do about? Is it fine to leave these spots before applying the pain or do I have to continue to take off the paint from the rest of the spoiler? The surface is very smooth and I haven't finished sanding with 600 so please do tell me what I have to do. Thanks
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It's fine, but I suggest you primer it, for something that small you can put 2 light coats of primer then soft block with 500 wet. Small cut throughs on edges will cover with sealer but I would primer if possible it'll pay off in the end, for some reason cut throughs on gm cars seem to show up more than most in paint
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So do I finish with 600 grit then prime? Or do I just spray over the 400 that I sanded with
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Prime over the 400 then sand primer with 500-600
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Ok man thanks will do that. I'm going to finish going over the whole car with 400 wet then primer right?
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Yes if you have fixed your dents ect. You can primer
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I ran into a problem today because as I was sanding i cut through the factory primer and can see metal. The area where metal is showing is smaller than a dime. What should I do next as in primer and what kind and any suggestions you may have?


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