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Bubbling Sail Panel Issue for Dummies
#2021
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
^ I was just pointing out that NO specific primer or special/unique painting process is needed on the metal side to prevent bubbles (your previous post sort of implied that this was necessary). In regards to the bubbles and preventing their return with a new panel, it's all about getting the underside of that panel properly prepped. The glue won't do anything to the metal side.
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k3000 (10-11-2020)
#2023
Has anyone tried to take a bubbling roof off, remove all the glue, and then reapply the same panel? They aren't the easiest to get ahold of. And I need to get my hood fixed anyways since I dropped a wrench out of the attic that made the tumble of it's life to end up on my car the one day the cover was off.
Last edited by ls2 bait; 06-02-2018 at 05:26 PM.
#2024
Has anyone tried to take a bubbling roof off, remove all the glue, and then reapply the same panel? They aren't the easiest to get ahold of. And I need to get my hood fixed anyways since I dropped a wrench out of the attic that made the tumble of it's life to end up on my car the one day the cover was off.
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#2026
I’m curious: how many of you attempted this job on your own? I have a full hard top car, and I’m considering a 6Le piece. I can’t seem to find any body shops locally who have done the job, so I’m considering replacing the panel myself, then bringing it in for paint.
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/pai...l-replacement/
questions for those who have:
1: does the 6LE panel need any modification to fit properly?
2: does the 6LE panel last?
3: can you get an “epoxy primer” in a rattle can?
3a: if not: how much would you expect a body shop to charge for it to hit the underside?
3b: could somebody with a small compressor (craftsman 1.6hp) but a gun and lay the epoxy primer out themselves?
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/pai...l-replacement/
questions for those who have:
1: does the 6LE panel need any modification to fit properly?
2: does the 6LE panel last?
3: can you get an “epoxy primer” in a rattle can?
3a: if not: how much would you expect a body shop to charge for it to hit the underside?
3b: could somebody with a small compressor (craftsman 1.6hp) but a gun and lay the epoxy primer out themselves?
#2027
Any new panel - regardless of GM or not - would likely need some level of work. Just the nature of fiberglass. Some people have had to do very little to the 6LE piece, others have had to do more work to get it to fit right.
It should last fine as long as the work is done right. Many guys have used one on here over the last several years and have not had any repeat issues.
It should last fine as long as the work is done right. Many guys have used one on here over the last several years and have not had any repeat issues.
#2029
No he doesn’t. They’re being sold through MAGG now which is oddly almost entirely 6le products while 6le is going through some issues.
Last edited by ls2 bait; 06-16-2018 at 10:31 PM.
#2032
Carbon fiber
I recently purchased a carbon fiber roof panel from 6liter for my 02 ws6 with 10k original miles. It's been garaged for the past 16 years..and I'm starting to see little baby bubbles on the sides. I'm going to use the recommend glue by 3M. And ima use 2k epoxy primer aerosol on the metal part and the bottom of the roof..hopefully this will fix the issue!
#2035
I have a 2001 Trans Am with only 17,000 miles on it.Been in a climate controlled basement for 16 years.Only gotten out about twice a year for emissions to get tag and short trip.As of now I can only see a trace of a slight bubble or two.Hardly noticable.My question is will it get worse since I have started to drive it more.Or has the issue dried out over the years?
Also I just found a car being parted out this week.It’s a 98 car.Everything gone but the hatch,quarters and the top so no way of knowing what the build month is.I looked all over it and it had no bubbling at all on the sailpanel.It,been sitting in the bone yard for a while.So does anyone think it’s a mistake to buy this?I can get it for $100.I would think if it was going to bubble it would have happened by now.
Also I just found a car being parted out this week.It’s a 98 car.Everything gone but the hatch,quarters and the top so no way of knowing what the build month is.I looked all over it and it had no bubbling at all on the sailpanel.It,been sitting in the bone yard for a while.So does anyone think it’s a mistake to buy this?I can get it for $100.I would think if it was going to bubble it would have happened by now.
Last edited by inspector; 01-26-2019 at 11:54 AM. Reason: incorrect year posted
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#2037
I figure on it getting worse.That’s why i’m Looking at the one off a 98 car.Like I stated I could not verify a build date and was asking what others thought about it showing no signs of bubbling.By it not showing any signs i’m Thinking it is possibly a early 98 car.
Last edited by inspector; 01-26-2019 at 11:52 AM. Reason: incorrect year posted
#2040
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Yes, the problem on your low mile 2000 car will absolutely get worse as you expose it to more heat and sunlight.
Can you get a VIN anywhere off of this '98 donor car? If so, a build date can be determined. If not, you can probably assume that it's OK if it's been sitting for years in the sun at a scrap yard with no bubbles. Keep in mind, only the last ~2.5 months of '98 production are affected by the issue, so the vast majority of '98 cars won't have this problem. However, within the '98 model year there are a disproportionate amount of SS cars which will have this issue (because SS production wasn't ramped up until later in the model year, so more SSs were built in those final months than the early months). So if this was an SS car (is the factory spoiler still present on the hatch? I doubt it would be if it was an SS unit), the chances are higher that it was built during the problematic months (05/98-07/98).
Can you get a VIN anywhere off of this '98 donor car? If so, a build date can be determined. If not, you can probably assume that it's OK if it's been sitting for years in the sun at a scrap yard with no bubbles. Keep in mind, only the last ~2.5 months of '98 production are affected by the issue, so the vast majority of '98 cars won't have this problem. However, within the '98 model year there are a disproportionate amount of SS cars which will have this issue (because SS production wasn't ramped up until later in the model year, so more SSs were built in those final months than the early months). So if this was an SS car (is the factory spoiler still present on the hatch? I doubt it would be if it was an SS unit), the chances are higher that it was built during the problematic months (05/98-07/98).
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