Best way to fix SS spoiler?
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Best way to fix SS spoiler?
There's about an inch long gash in my spoiler from when someone hit me in the parking lot and drove off. It's not very deep...maybe about 1/4 inch. It's raised up a little bit too (where the gash is).
How much would a body shop charge to fix it? Or is there anyway I can fix it myself?
How much would a body shop charge to fix it? Or is there anyway I can fix it myself?
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body shops will try to **** and if you have not worked with these repairs before then don't practice on the camaro. Remember this is not a fiberglass spoiler. SMC I believe like the hood.
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only thing a body shop can really do, short of replacing it for you, is attempt to "V" out the gash. Rough it up and then fill it. And hopefully they will use like a short strand type filler.
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Originally Posted by davidfre21
only thing a body shop can really do, short of replacing it for you, is attempt to "V" out the gash. Rough it up and then fill it. And hopefully they will use like a short strand type filler.
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Originally Posted by m_ghonim
You can't do that to the spoiler it is not a plastic bumper or fender!!!
That is where you are quite wrong.... More than a decade of collision repair under my belt, and I have grooved/ground out the cracked area and filled them just like suggested(use something like cat hair), and they have held up with NO problems. It will work, if done correctly, but make sure the worked area is clean before filling..
Blade, please post a pic for a more accurate diagnosis of the problemed area.
Last edited by Tim Noel; 03-25-2007 at 03:30 PM. Reason: added to post
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Originally Posted by Tim Noel
That is where you are quite wrong.... More than a decade of collision repair under my belt, and I have grooved/ground out the cracked area and filled them just like suggested(use something like cat hair), and they have held up with NO problems. It will work, if done correctly, but make sure the worked area is clean before filling..
Blade, please post a pic for a more accurate diagnosis of the problemed area.
Blade, please post a pic for a more accurate diagnosis of the problemed area.
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Originally Posted by m_ghonim
If the damage is showing the fibers or deep you can't just fill it in. Thats like just filling dents on the car with bondo, its a temporary fix but won't hold well and may crack over time.
Better leave the body work to someone who knows what they are talking about.
It IS NOT a "temporary fix" if done correctly, and WILL hold as well as a new one would.
JFYI.... All the custom cars from Chip Foose, Boyd Coddington, ect.... have filler in them. If you want a perfect body, you have to use some to take out every little dimple to make them perfect, that is why the kings of the car industry use them, too.
We don't use "bondo" anymore. That is the old crap, and it was like putting concrete in dents only to fail later. That was the "old timers" way of doing things before all the great technological advances in the collision repair industry. Technology is alot different than you realize, as the fillers are more flexible and don't crack out if done correctly(metal pulled and worked in a proper fashion). I have used filler on show cars more than 10 years back, and they look the same now, as when I originally done them. It's just like anything, it has to be done right to achieve the correct/best results.
No matter how deep the gash is on the spoiler, it CAN be fixed to look like new, and it WILL hold up and be as perfect as buying a new spoiler. If it's not too bad, there are some 3M epoxies that can be used as well, and are very strong and durable for a great repair.
Pics would help with a final decision as how to go about repairing it, though.
Last edited by Tim Noel; 03-25-2007 at 05:17 PM.
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Originally Posted by m_ghonim
go ahead and stuff an big old gash with some filler then!!!!!
How many years of professional collision repair experience do you have?
The spoiler can be repaired, so stop the "mis-information train", to scare the guy into buying a part he does not need to buy.
I do notice you want to buy his spoiler. If it's such a lost cause, why do you want it? Hmmmmmmmm....
Last edited by Tim Noel; 03-25-2007 at 05:18 PM. Reason: info added
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I was just responding to the guy that posted the bid for 100. I never said it is a lost cause I just know its better if you don't just fill it in but thats what most old timers want to do these days just like the guy that wanted to fix my SS hood by just ******* filling it in but it would have just been a temporary fix so I did it myself and stronger than it was originally. I have enough experience working with this stuff to throw my .02 in. Better to use some fiberglass with the Resin than just fudge packing the ******. Each person has their opinion on how to do a repair so don get butt hurt!!!!!
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Originally Posted by m_ghonim
I was just responding to the guy that posted the bid for 100. I never said it is a lost cause I just know its better if you don't just fill it in but thats what most old timers want to do these days just like the guy that wanted to fix my SS hood by just ******* filling it in but it would have just been a temporary fix so I did it myself and stronger than it was originally. I have enough experience working with this stuff to throw my .02 in. Better to use some fiberglass with the Resin than just fudge packing the ******. Each person has their opinion on how to do a repair so don get butt hurt!!!!!
Until you work in a professional collision shop or do this type of work on a daily basis, you are nothing more than a "shade tree bodyman" who does not understand all the processes that can be used to make a perfect repair(i.e. epoxy, cat hair, ect..) I have seen more than one guy like yourself, who comes into my place of work thinking he knows how to best repair his car, more than I. I find it funny he brings it to me to fix it. If he knows so much, why does he want me to do it? You are in that category, in my opinion..
I'll just let you keep bloviating. I don't know anything, and since you're the professional, you can school all of us. K?
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Originally Posted by Tim Noel
Noone suggested "fudge packing" anything. Fiberglass is a filler, believe it or not. In your mind, you think filler means "bondo". It's obvious from your posts..
Until you work in a professional collision shop or do this type of work on a daily basis, you are nothing more than a "shade tree bodyman" who does not understand all the processes that can be used to make a perfect repair(i.e. epoxy, cat hair, ect..) I have seen more than one guy like yourself, who comes into my place of work thinking he knows how to best repair his car, more than I. I find it funny he brings it to me to fix it. If he knows so much, why does he want me to do it? You are in that category, in my opinion..
I'll just let you keep bloviating. I don't know anything, and since you're the professional, you can school all of us. K?
Until you work in a professional collision shop or do this type of work on a daily basis, you are nothing more than a "shade tree bodyman" who does not understand all the processes that can be used to make a perfect repair(i.e. epoxy, cat hair, ect..) I have seen more than one guy like yourself, who comes into my place of work thinking he knows how to best repair his car, more than I. I find it funny he brings it to me to fix it. If he knows so much, why does he want me to do it? You are in that category, in my opinion..
I'll just let you keep bloviating. I don't know anything, and since you're the professional, you can school all of us. K?
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Obviously, I am dealing with a youngster, here. When you lose your arguement, you resort to cussing and vulgar tactics. It shows your age, so I hope you feel better. Maybe a little better parenting would have benefited your life, so you would not have such a filthy mouth towards your elders.
I don't cheat people, but do their repairs correctly. That is how I have sustained a good rep and made a living in my profession. I have even been accused of being way too picky by many, including insurance companies whom I have done collision repair work for. Nothing to prove by arguing with a punk kid on this message forum....
I don't cheat people, but do their repairs correctly. That is how I have sustained a good rep and made a living in my profession. I have even been accused of being way too picky by many, including insurance companies whom I have done collision repair work for. Nothing to prove by arguing with a punk kid on this message forum....
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Originally Posted by Tim Noel
Noone suggested "fudge packing" anything. Fiberglass is a filler, believe it or not. In your mind, you think filler means "bondo". It's obvious from your posts..
Until you work in a professional collision shop or do this type of work on a daily basis, you are nothing more than a "shade tree bodyman" who does not understand all the processes that can be used to make a perfect repair(i.e. epoxy, cat hair, ect..) I have seen more than one guy like yourself, who comes into my place of work thinking he knows how to best repair his car, more than I. I find it funny he brings it to me to fix it. If he knows so much, why does he want me to do it? You are in that category, in my opinion..
I'll just let you keep bloviating. I don't know anything, and since you're the professional, you can school all of us. K?
Until you work in a professional collision shop or do this type of work on a daily basis, you are nothing more than a "shade tree bodyman" who does not understand all the processes that can be used to make a perfect repair(i.e. epoxy, cat hair, ect..) I have seen more than one guy like yourself, who comes into my place of work thinking he knows how to best repair his car, more than I. I find it funny he brings it to me to fix it. If he knows so much, why does he want me to do it? You are in that category, in my opinion..
I'll just let you keep bloviating. I don't know anything, and since you're the professional, you can school all of us. K?
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Originally Posted by m_ghonim
You can't do that to the spoiler it is not a plastic bumper or fender!!!