Best clear to put on a car
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Originally Posted by Camaro477
Dude what is that orange color on your camaro? That is bad ***! I would love one day to do an lsx powered 69 camaro and paint it that color with maybe some white hockey stick stripes with a little hint of that orange on the white.
It would look awesome on a '69 Camaro
[QUOTE=Pro-Mo]Tangerine Candy
So you cleared with a different clear other than house of Kolor on Tangerine Kandy? You might already know this but ill throw it out anyway. With the house of Kolor candy's its a five coat minimum and it is recomended to be used with Hok clear because of the uv protection. I have learned from my mistake of saying oh that looks good with two coats and then clear the car and six months later its faded on the most exposed areas to the sun. So now when i shoot candy's i use their clear because it helps it against the sun. Like i said you might already know this. I hope you do. That car looks sick and would not want that happening to it.
So you cleared with a different clear other than house of Kolor on Tangerine Kandy? You might already know this but ill throw it out anyway. With the house of Kolor candy's its a five coat minimum and it is recomended to be used with Hok clear because of the uv protection. I have learned from my mistake of saying oh that looks good with two coats and then clear the car and six months later its faded on the most exposed areas to the sun. So now when i shoot candy's i use their clear because it helps it against the sun. Like i said you might already know this. I hope you do. That car looks sick and would not want that happening to it.
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[QUOTE=Pheonix] Appreciate the info, but I used Matrix Tangerine Candy. After the candy was down I used PPG 895 (clear base) as a intermediate coat then put down the clear.
Its got two "dry" coats and three "wet" coats. With candy (at least Matrix) the more coats you use the darker it gets. I stopped my initial wet coats at three when I obtained the color depth I wanted.
As far as fade goes, reds, oranges, yellows always fade faster, especially here in florida. I just do my best to keep it waxed and out of the sun.
Thanks for the compliments.
Originally Posted by Pro-Mo
Tangerine Candy
So you cleared with a different clear other than house of Kolor on Tangerine Kandy? You might already know this but ill throw it out anyway. With the house of Kolor candy's its a five coat minimum and it is recomended to be used with Hok clear because of the uv protection. I have learned from my mistake of saying oh that looks good with two coats and then clear the car and six months later its faded on the most exposed areas to the sun. So now when i shoot candy's i use their clear because it helps it against the sun. Like i said you might already know this. I hope you do. That car looks sick and would not want that happening to it.
So you cleared with a different clear other than house of Kolor on Tangerine Kandy? You might already know this but ill throw it out anyway. With the house of Kolor candy's its a five coat minimum and it is recomended to be used with Hok clear because of the uv protection. I have learned from my mistake of saying oh that looks good with two coats and then clear the car and six months later its faded on the most exposed areas to the sun. So now when i shoot candy's i use their clear because it helps it against the sun. Like i said you might already know this. I hope you do. That car looks sick and would not want that happening to it.
Its got two "dry" coats and three "wet" coats. With candy (at least Matrix) the more coats you use the darker it gets. I stopped my initial wet coats at three when I obtained the color depth I wanted.
As far as fade goes, reds, oranges, yellows always fade faster, especially here in florida. I just do my best to keep it waxed and out of the sun.
Thanks for the compliments.
To be honest , there is no favorite in our shop. we have had great success with Dupont, PPG, and HoK, depending on what base was used. Normally with a candy or any other HoK custom job, we use a HoK clear with it.
for everyday collision, PPG base and trans star . At $125 for a setup , it does just fine and looks great. If we started using PPG at $240 a setup , we'd be losing money for no reason
for everyday collision, PPG base and trans star . At $125 for a setup , it does just fine and looks great. If we started using PPG at $240 a setup , we'd be losing money for no reason
[QUOTE=Pro-Mo] Yup same here in Houston, i always tell the customers that and they get scared, but its the truth. Never used Matrix candys i didnt know they could use the same name as house of kolor.
Originally Posted by Pheonix
Appreciate the info, but I used Matrix Tangerine Candy. After the candy was down I used PPG 895 (clear base) as a intermediate coat then put down the clear.
Its got two "dry" coats and three "wet" coats. With candy (at least Matrix) the more coats you use the darker it gets. I stopped my initial wet coats at three when I obtained the color depth I wanted.
As far as fade goes, reds, oranges, yellows always fade faster, especially here in florida. I just do my best to keep it waxed and out of the sun.
Thanks for the compliments.
Its got two "dry" coats and three "wet" coats. With candy (at least Matrix) the more coats you use the darker it gets. I stopped my initial wet coats at three when I obtained the color depth I wanted.
As far as fade goes, reds, oranges, yellows always fade faster, especially here in florida. I just do my best to keep it waxed and out of the sun.
Thanks for the compliments.
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[QUOTE=Pheonix]
Never used Matrix candys i didnt know they could use the same name as house of kolor. Maybe, they are most known for blatanly saying they have copied PPG and DuPonts recipes for basecoats. They openy advertise it.
Most of the rep here for Matrix are ex PPG employees. You cant say no to their prices though, especially in the colision repair business. I got my candy for a price I couldnt rufuse, otherwise i probobly would have used HoK. PPG has a nice orange but I wanted control of the depth of color.
Originally Posted by Pro-Mo
Never used Matrix candys i didnt know they could use the same name as house of kolor.
Most of the rep here for Matrix are ex PPG employees. You cant say no to their prices though, especially in the colision repair business. I got my candy for a price I couldnt rufuse, otherwise i probobly would have used HoK. PPG has a nice orange but I wanted control of the depth of color.
Well it defenitely looks good. and you sprayed panel by panel right i think thats what i read on another thread. Thats hard to do as is. yeah with house of kolor you can control it somewhat but they have recomendations that help the life of it and that is go for all five coats.
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Originally Posted by SSideExhLS1
my first vote goes for Sikkens and secondly the ChromaPremier clears from Dupont.
Ive sprayed and used just about everything, ive been painting porsches, ferraris, real cobras, and pebble beach winners for years now. By far the best ones are Glasurit, sikkens, and spies. Ppg= **** poor gloss, the same goes for dupont, they are junk. The 3 i mentioned are very flexible, very hard, and buff out to a clear, beautiful shine. The cheaper clears always look milky to me. Ppg and dupont also shrink like a bastard, dont even get me started on their sealers, The current spies paint system im using, the primer and sealers LOCK UP, its amazing how fast they lock up, they work awesome.
Also i dont know who said with better clears you wont need a cut and buff, but it has nothing to do with the clears, its all about the painter. I can lay down any clear with a good smooth finish and minimal dirt, but to get the right shine and reflection, any good paint job will need to be cut and buffed, i think in the 1000s of cars ive painted, only 2-3 have ever come out with ZERO dirt, it just never happens.
Pro-mo, nice looking car as well, im thnking of doing my 96 ws6 in sunset orange, just nto sure if i want a factory clolor yet.
Also i dont know who said with better clears you wont need a cut and buff, but it has nothing to do with the clears, its all about the painter. I can lay down any clear with a good smooth finish and minimal dirt, but to get the right shine and reflection, any good paint job will need to be cut and buffed, i think in the 1000s of cars ive painted, only 2-3 have ever come out with ZERO dirt, it just never happens.
Pro-mo, nice looking car as well, im thnking of doing my 96 ws6 in sunset orange, just nto sure if i want a factory clolor yet.
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Originally Posted by glocklimited9
Ive sprayed and used just about everything, ive been painting porsches, ferraris, real cobras, and pebble beach winners for years now. By far the best ones are Glasurit, sikkens, and spies. Ppg= **** poor gloss, the same goes for dupont, they are junk. The 3 i mentioned are very flexible, very hard, and buff out to a clear, beautiful shine. The cheaper clears always look milky to me. Ppg and dupont also shrink like a bastard, dont even get me started on their sealers, The current spies paint system im using, the primer and sealers LOCK UP, its amazing how fast they lock up, they work awesome.
Also i dont know who said with better clears you wont need a cut and buff, but it has nothing to do with the clears, its all about the painter. I can lay down any clear with a good smooth finish and minimal dirt, but to get the right shine and reflection, any good paint job will need to be cut and buffed, i think in the 1000s of cars ive painted, only 2-3 have ever come out with ZERO dirt, it just never happens.
Pro-mo, nice looking car as well, im thnking of doing my 96 ws6 in sunset orange, just nto sure if i want a factory clolor yet.
Also i dont know who said with better clears you wont need a cut and buff, but it has nothing to do with the clears, its all about the painter. I can lay down any clear with a good smooth finish and minimal dirt, but to get the right shine and reflection, any good paint job will need to be cut and buffed, i think in the 1000s of cars ive painted, only 2-3 have ever come out with ZERO dirt, it just never happens.
Pro-mo, nice looking car as well, im thnking of doing my 96 ws6 in sunset orange, just nto sure if i want a factory clolor yet.
What ! no dirt? Haha if the general public only knew how hard it really is.
Dirt is, and always will be, falling out of nowhere on your nice slick coat of clear. At least they are easier to rid than say...bugs. Dont even want to go there.
Keep us posted on your WS6
haha those dam bugs, i sware they wait for you to lay that last layer of clear. Exactly when you get a paint job with no dirt, your just lucky, nothing more or less. It still kills me when people ask " who painted it" i wish they would understand paint is the easiest thing
Heres a few links of some cars i painted, This car was actually die cast, and i bought one on ebay lol
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/000_0301.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...100_3754-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...100_3769-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/000_0018.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/Image011.jpg
Heres a few links of some cars i painted, This car was actually die cast, and i bought one on ebay lol
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/000_0301.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...100_3754-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...100_3769-1.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/000_0018.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...r/Image011.jpg
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thank all yall for the advice input etc... im a still learnin the paint game i have 3 cars that im doin ill buy 1 ppg set up , 1 sikkens, 1 dupont set up now 2 out of 3 goin candy paint so from reading i take it i should use the sikkens on candy for protection. now i have 1 painted already i just used transtar cause it was what i had around ,but i have that car sanded down ready for re klear so ill try dupont on it.these all are all my cars 99 yukon candy,98 z28 lemonade yellow pearl&white diamond,92 camryroyal blue candy thankx guys
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Originally Posted by 02gtp4now
ppg sucks out of your list i would go with chromaclear, but you might check into alsa its good stuff
yeah i seen some of alsa candy color looks awsome and pro mo i love the color my 98 ta vert was that color and my other truck and bike lol everything on my drive way was that color i didnt want to repeat history .i sold all them now changed up with camaro etc.. yesterday i brought another camaro for my girl friend she wants her car a candy color by the time i finsh all these cars buyin paint etc... ill be broke damnmit lol nah i love to paint i just wanna get so good i can really be proud of my work and make some good money so thank you guys for all info i have a head full of ?'s
