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Old 01-29-2009, 09:13 AM
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Hey MusTangKilla01Z28 have you installed anything new recently? I noticed mine seemed to start right after I installed my new master cylinder.
Old 01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
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Crank slamming around in the block, causing the crank sensor to go fubar???
Old 01-29-2009, 05:21 PM
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yeah i have changed the slave and master while i was putting in the spec clutch
Old 01-29-2009, 05:34 PM
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Maybe we altered something while installing the master? I just went out and took a quick look but didnt see anything loose or out of place but I'm going to take a closer look tomorrow night and see what I can find. What master did you go with?
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Just took a good long look at it and everything is fine. I did a lot of searching on here and I think the crank position sensor might have something to do with it. If you have replaced or tuned your pcm recently it needs to do a CKP relearn. I've read that it shouldnt cause a missfire however I'm not positive and the details are still kinda fuzzy to me but it was also said that having a rev limiter set higher than stock will cause problems with the CKP relearn procedure, and in my case the only time it cuts out is when I shift above where the stock limiter was at. I don't know how all this ties in together but it's looking more and more like the CKP is the culprit. Hopefully someone with more knowledge on this will chime in.
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Hopefully! and someinfo on how to corect the problem!
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My friend had an I6 Trailblazer that he had tuned and he had to do the CKP. It was an auto... and an I6... so I don't know if it has any relevance, BUT I do know you can have any GM dealer do it for not too much.

Try seeing if setting the rev limiter back to stock fixes it, if so, there's you're problem. I could understand if the position sensor only works to a certain limit and by passing up 6xxxRPMs (or whatever) it kinda loses track of where the crank is. There again it would throw a CKP-based code... I could debate with myself all day. Hope you find it out!

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Originally Posted by kdick91
My friend had an I6 Trailblazer that he had tuned and he had to do the CKP. It was an auto... and an I6... so I don't know if it has any relevance, BUT I do know you can have any GM dealer do it for not too much.

Try seeing if setting the rev limiter back to stock fixes it, if so, there's you're problem. I could understand if the position sensor only works to a certain limit and by passing up 6xxxRPMs (or whatever) it kinda loses track of where the crank is. There again it would throw a CKP-based code... I could debate with myself all day. Hope you find it out!

Kyle
Thanks for the help man. The problem is, my limiter was raised a long time ago and I never had a problem with it until recently (right after I put the master cylinder in) Also it should throw a code if it needs to do a re-learn and I have no such codes. As far as putting the limiter back to stock, I'm sure it would fix the problem but there's no point in doing that when I can just shift early... but neither of those are an option for me cause I have a very specific goal right now and it's not gonna happen shifting at 6k.
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Same here! Need to find a way to shift 6800 at least
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so you both have raised rev limiters? sounds like valve float guys.
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If that were the case we would notice the loss without shifting, and my dyno graph has no significant drop at all. The problem is in fact a random missfire only after a very fast shift above ~6000 I just dont know whats causing it yet.
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NSSANE02 does your car also throw the evap. emmisons light sometimes? Mine did last night!
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No, I took all my A.I.R. stuff out and the code was deleted with the tune.
Old 02-02-2009, 06:30 PM
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A.I.R. and EVAP are two totally different systems. There is no reason to delete evap codes.
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Originally Posted by poolshark021
A.I.R. and EVAP are two totally different systems. There is no reason to delete evap codes.
Deleted the A.I.R. codes, we don't have evap on our cars.
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These cars definitely have an EVAP system.
Some years (01 & 02 I think) t-56 cars did have TM, but that doesn't sound like your problem. Could be engine TM also, but I doubt that as well. Worth a try though.
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Originally Posted by NSSANE02
Deleted the A.I.R. codes, we don't have evap on our cars.
Your probably thinking about egr. 01-02 cars don't have egr. All 4th gen f-bodies have evap (fuel vapor canister, purge valve...etc.)
Old 02-02-2009, 10:06 PM
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**** I meant EGR not evap, sorry. Never heard of TM on a T-56 but hell I learn something new every day. Would it cause a missfire though?
Old 02-02-2009, 10:17 PM
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Did a quick search on torque management and found this >>> https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...nagment+torque

Does fit some of the characteristics...
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I've never heard of TM causing a missfire light, but it sure will make the car fall on it's face if you don't lift on a shift.



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