ping at WOT
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ping at WOT from what I understand there are 3 in gear setting for timing.
1.timing at idel. believe mines set at 17 degrees
2.timing at part throttlle.believe mines set at 20 degrees
3.timing at wide open throttle.believe mines set at 23degrees.
?I have a pinging noise at high RPM just before the A4 shifts.
if I get a retune what would be a good setting for timing at wide open throttle for a mild cammed car?
I did a search and read the stickie.
I can record this pinging noise w/ my computer but don't know where or how to post a non video.
Thanks for any helpfull surport
1.timing at idel. believe mines set at 17 degrees
2.timing at part throttlle.believe mines set at 20 degrees
3.timing at wide open throttle.believe mines set at 23degrees.
?I have a pinging noise at high RPM just before the A4 shifts.
if I get a retune what would be a good setting for timing at wide open throttle for a mild cammed car?
I did a search and read the stickie.
I can record this pinging noise w/ my computer but don't know where or how to post a non video.
Thanks for any helpfull surport
I think I'd start with checking fuel delivery, pressure at WOT on
my stock plumbing / wiring drops to 52PSI WOT from 58PSI low
pedal. That's something like a 6% deliivery model error (or maybe
-0.8ish AFR from commanded). Got a hotwire kit to install and
if that doesn't work I'll be plumbing for a manifold referenced
regulator and return-from-rail. Fixing it up is better than trying
to tune around it. Also check that you're not running up against
injector duty limits at max RPM*MAP.
my stock plumbing / wiring drops to 52PSI WOT from 58PSI low
pedal. That's something like a 6% deliivery model error (or maybe
-0.8ish AFR from commanded). Got a hotwire kit to install and
if that doesn't work I'll be plumbing for a manifold referenced
regulator and return-from-rail. Fixing it up is better than trying
to tune around it. Also check that you're not running up against
injector duty limits at max RPM*MAP.
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From: Atlanta, GA Ft. Walton Beach, FL
fuel preasure jimmyblue are you saying the stock wireing to fuel pump is inaddaquite and at high RPMs the fuel pump is not receiving enought voltage thus reduceing preasure?
do you have a fuel preasure guage inside the car?
thanks
do you have a fuel preasure guage inside the car?
thanks
I've been told the wiring is weak, so I got the kit to reduce the
voltage drop. Just haven't gotten to installing it.
I added an Autometer sender to my aftermarket Actron fuel
pressure gauge, a cig lighter power feed and a remote gauge
head, so I can read it from the driver's seat.
voltage drop. Just haven't gotten to installing it.
I added an Autometer sender to my aftermarket Actron fuel
pressure gauge, a cig lighter power feed and a remote gauge
head, so I can read it from the driver's seat.
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From: Atlanta, GA Ft. Walton Beach, FL
hotwire I'd like to connect a fuel preasure guage up to the shrader valve an observe the preasure at normal cruiseing and at WOT how could I route the tube so I could oserve it?
or would I have to get an actualle fuel preasure guage and mount it inside the car?
I'm assumming you're using the racetronics hotwire kit?
Thanks
or would I have to get an actualle fuel preasure guage and mount it inside the car?
I'm assumming you're using the racetronics hotwire kit?
Thanks
I'd be hesitant to run pressurized fuel into the cabin, you'd
need a high quality (probably braided) hose. I elected to
cobble it up electrically, that's my thing. The Actron gauge
(AutoZone cheapo) screws into the Schrader, I took the hose
off it and added a 1/8 NPT T-block for the sender.
need a high quality (probably braided) hose. I elected to
cobble it up electrically, that's my thing. The Actron gauge
(AutoZone cheapo) screws into the Schrader, I took the hose
off it and added a 1/8 NPT T-block for the sender.
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observing preasure I'd be hesitant to run pressurized fuel into the cabin, you'd
need a high quality (probably braided) hose. I elected to
cobble it up electrically, that's my thing. The Actron gauge
(AutoZone cheapo) screws into the Schrader, I took the hose
off it and added a 1/8 NPT T-block for the sender.
need a high quality (probably braided) hose. I elected to
cobble it up electrically, that's my thing. The Actron gauge
(AutoZone cheapo) screws into the Schrader, I took the hose
off it and added a 1/8 NPT T-block for the sender.
I haven't looked at how much clearance there is on the weather stripe behind hood. maybe it won't sqwees the tube.
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doe's you're car ping also I've been told the wiring is weak, so I got the kit to reduce the
voltage drop. Just haven't gotten to installing it.
I added an Autometer sender to my aftermarket Actron fuel
pressure gauge, a cig lighter power feed and a remote gauge
head, so I can read it from the driver's seat.
voltage drop. Just haven't gotten to installing it.
I added an Autometer sender to my aftermarket Actron fuel
pressure gauge, a cig lighter power feed and a remote gauge
head, so I can read it from the driver's seat.
can you please post an image of you're fuel preasure guage setup and if possiable provide part #s.
for right now I have tapped a small peice of wood under my throttle pedal preventing WOT and the associated ping.
Thanks
You may be getting oil from your PCV system into the intake manifold. That will make your motor ping its *** off. Get a catch can and see if the problem goes away. I've seen it cure pinging for many F-Bodies.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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Cc three years ago when I removed my stock LS1 intake manifold for the FAST manifold I was shocked at the amount of sludg blow by inside the LS1 manifold did'nt want to crape up my new FAST so I've had the home depot catch can & a fuel fliter on second tube connected to manifold (attached image) on for around three years apparently it's catching blow by however I haven't looked inside this new manifold.
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
Last edited by badmfkr; Sep 2, 2009 at 10:58 AM.
three years ago when I removed my stock LS1 intake manifold for the FAST manifold I was shocked at the amount of sludg blow by inside the LS1 manifold did'nt want to crape up my new FAST so I've had the home depot catch can & a fuel fliter on second tube connected to manifold (attached image) on for around three years apparently it's catching blow by however I haven't looked inside this new manifold.
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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cc home depot cc is circled
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
home depot cc is circled
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
I've allways used a fram oil fliter recently have read here that changing to a AC will cure the ping.
what are you're thoughts on the GM fuel pump wireing being inadaquite
we all know about the inadaquite wireing to the pass. side electric windows.
Thanks
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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From: Atlanta, GA Ft. Walton Beach, FL
update no more ping Installed the MNCC last night today did 5 WOT runs and dam I feel good!
I was planning on buying HP tuners,wide band w/ 5 sensors innovate ss14 and monitor MAS,fuel preasure,TPS,MAP ect.
what a relief I avoided all that. away I may just get the innovate LC1 any thoughts.
I thought my little Home depot was doing what I wanted it to do catch oil blow by and it did car still pinged though.
the home depot is attached as a secondary just to see how good the MNCC is working.
I also found out from the tuner my WOT timing is 28 degrees.
Mr.G you are the man thanks so much for you're expert advice.
thanks to all the others w/ there expert advice too.
Hope this helps others w/ same pinging problem
Last edited by badmfkr; Feb 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM.
Glad it worked out for you and saved you some dough. 
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
