Props to ChrisB and his LS1 Analyzer!
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Props to ChrisB and his LS1 Analyzer! Finally able to get to this !! Wasn't able to log much... snowing here 
BUT - I was able to use ChrisB's analyzer. Took me awhile ( till 2 am last nite) to figure out I had the exported headings wrong in EFILive V - should be "Titles" only. Actually, I tried EFILive 6 first - and was able to enter an Exported Log File with "Caption" only heading. But with EFILive 6 the VE table kPas were not correct. The calculated VEs were all less than 35kPa - whereas the logfile contained a complete range of kPa (MAP). Does anyone know how to correct/compensate for EFILive6????
Man, what a sweet piece of software!! Calculating a new VE table is a snap!!There are many GREAT features. Just looking at it a non-techie, like me,doesn't realize the significance of all the features - but once you begin to use it they're really appreciated. I really can't say enough about this - if you can find the time to try it - Do!!Hell, It even makes our Logfiles look better!!!
Thanks ChrisB for a AWESOME Tuning tool.
joel
BUT - I was able to use ChrisB's analyzer. Took me awhile ( till 2 am last nite) to figure out I had the exported headings wrong in EFILive V - should be "Titles" only. Actually, I tried EFILive 6 first - and was able to enter an Exported Log File with "Caption" only heading. But with EFILive 6 the VE table kPas were not correct. The calculated VEs were all less than 35kPa - whereas the logfile contained a complete range of kPa (MAP). Does anyone know how to correct/compensate for EFILive6????
Man, what a sweet piece of software!! Calculating a new VE table is a snap!!There are many GREAT features. Just looking at it a non-techie, like me,doesn't realize the significance of all the features - but once you begin to use it they're really appreciated. I really can't say enough about this - if you can find the time to try it - Do!!
Thanks ChrisB for a AWESOME Tuning tool.
joel
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Originally Posted by binksz06
Finally able to get to this !! Wasn't able to log much... snowing here
BUT - I was able to use ChrisB's analyzer. Took me awhile ( till 2 am last nite) to figure out I had the exported headings wrong in EFILive V - should be "Titles" only. Actually, I tried EFILive 6 first - and was able to enter an Exported Log File with "Caption" only heading. But with EFILive 6 the VE table kPas were not correct. The calculated VEs were all less than 35kPa - whereas the logfile contained a complete range of kPa (MAP). Does anyone know how to correct/compensate for EFILive6????
Man, what a sweet piece of software!! Calculating a new VE table is a snap!!There are many GREAT features. Just looking at it a non-techie, like me,doesn't realize the significance of all the features - but once you begin to use it they're really appreciated. I really can't say enough about this - if you can find the time to try it - Do!!Hell, It even makes our Logfiles look better!!!
Thanks ChrisB for a AWESOME Tuning tool.
joel
BUT - I was able to use ChrisB's analyzer. Took me awhile ( till 2 am last nite) to figure out I had the exported headings wrong in EFILive V - should be "Titles" only. Actually, I tried EFILive 6 first - and was able to enter an Exported Log File with "Caption" only heading. But with EFILive 6 the VE table kPas were not correct. The calculated VEs were all less than 35kPa - whereas the logfile contained a complete range of kPa (MAP). Does anyone know how to correct/compensate for EFILive6????
Man, what a sweet piece of software!! Calculating a new VE table is a snap!!There are many GREAT features. Just looking at it a non-techie, like me,doesn't realize the significance of all the features - but once you begin to use it they're really appreciated. I really can't say enough about this - if you can find the time to try it - Do!!
Thanks ChrisB for a AWESOME Tuning tool.
joel
Joel,
Aren't the EFI Calculated VE's in percent? If we are talking about the same thing, mine read over 100% at times.
Joe
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Originally Posted by gojo
Joel,
Aren't the EFI Calculated VE's in percent? If we are talking about the same thing, mine read over 100% at times.
Joe
Aren't the EFI Calculated VE's in percent? If we are talking about the same thing, mine read over 100% at times.
Joe
Yes, the Calc VE is in percent.
The EFI 6 Calc VE PID for Edit - ({SAE.MAF.gps}*({SAE.IAT.C}+273.15)/(346*{SAE.RPM}*{SAE.MAP.kPa})*212544))*30 - gave me many " + 100% " VE values when I divided the results by 30 to convert back to percent. When I used the PID without the "*30" I had better, i.e. more consistent results. I can't explain why other than a simple math function variance in the software???
With a nice cam, efficient heads, intake and exhaust isn't it probable to have VEs greater than 100% ?
I emailed ChrisB about the EFILive 6 and entering logfiles. He asked me to forward a logfile - which I did. Hopefully we'll be able to use Version 6 . If not I'll use V5 for VE tuning. I'm amazed how inefficient my setup is at lower RPM ranges.
Have you used this software/Analyzer yet? If I can figure it out...anyone can. Sometimes software doesn't seem very logical to me........I like icons and pictures
joel
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..Frame ..Time ..ms SAE.VSS SAE.RPM SAE.MAP CALC.CYLAIR GM.IBPW1 GM.IBPW2 SAE.SPARKADV SAE.TP SAE.ECT GM.KR SAE.MAF SAE.IAT CALC.VE2 GM.FTC SAE.VSS
3273 27:23.2 339249 93 4758 18 0.06 2 2 34 9.8 76 0 19.78 3 39.18 21 58
3274 27:23.4 339359 92 4610 18 0.06 2 2 34 9.8 76 0 19.78 3 40.44 21 57
3275 27:23.5 339470 92 4568 20 0.26 2 3 40 20 76 0 79.26 3 147.18 21 57
3276 27:23.6 339580 92 4838 45 0.23 6 5 33 30.6 76 0 73.25 3 57.08 22 57
I still have some 100+ VE values...here is one:
In Row 3275 -> 147.18 VE2 .. but is an aberration - and it's FTC = 21, which is Deceleration. We shouldn't include Decel values. FWIW.
joel
3273 27:23.2 339249 93 4758 18 0.06 2 2 34 9.8 76 0 19.78 3 39.18 21 58
3274 27:23.4 339359 92 4610 18 0.06 2 2 34 9.8 76 0 19.78 3 40.44 21 57
3275 27:23.5 339470 92 4568 20 0.26 2 3 40 20 76 0 79.26 3 147.18 21 57
3276 27:23.6 339580 92 4838 45 0.23 6 5 33 30.6 76 0 73.25 3 57.08 22 57
I still have some 100+ VE values...here is one:
In Row 3275 -> 147.18 VE2 .. but is an aberration - and it's FTC = 21, which is Deceleration. We shouldn't include Decel values. FWIW.
joel
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Originally Posted by binksz06
With a nice cam, efficient heads, intake and exhaust isn't it probable to have VEs greater than 100% ?
The VE's calculated from log files usually have values over 100% due to rapid changes in the values used to calculate VE (tip-in, shifts, etc). The most accurate calculated VE's will be when the engine load is constant (at WOT away from shifts).
Last edited by deezel; Dec 17, 2003 at 12:14 PM.
Ve's on a NA LS1 should run between 75-80% under load. Anything above that and you are starting to talk about Pro-Stock engines and the likes. Multiplying the value by 30 gives you the values to put into edit for the Main VE tables
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
Ve's on a NA LS1 should run between 75-80% under load. Anything above that and you are starting to talk about Pro-Stock engines and the likes. Multiplying the value by 30 gives you the values to put into edit for the Main VE tables
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