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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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I'm trying to tune a friend of mine's car..the tune he needs is very similar to mine. I uploaded his tune and used the credits to where I can re-flash his PCM. I also uploaded my Tune out of my Camaro. I didn't use any credits for the one from my Car cause I don't need to do anything with it.

My question is can I copy the Tune Tables that he needs from mine over to his directly, or do I have to put in all the values individually..?

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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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You should be able to copy them over given they have the same axes.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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What do you mean by Axes?
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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i think he meant 'axis'
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Well if one table is say 10X20 but the other is 12X22 then I believe the plural is axes http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_plural_of_axis
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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ehhh...semantics.. It sounds the same, but spelled different. You must admit, reading it as 'axes' makes one assume it is describing an axe.

either way, the man's question still isn't answered..
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I believe I answered it, you can copy over the differences as long as the axes are the same...takes about 20 seconds tops.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
What do you mean by Axes?
He means make sure the labelling in the collums and rows in the tables are the same (same total collums, same total rows, same units in the table, and same numbers in the collum and row labels), I think you should be ok, especially if both cars are the same model year.
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Originally Posted by Mike454SS
He means make sure the labelling in the collums and rows in the tables are the same (same total collums, same total rows, same units in the table, and same numbers in the collum and row labels), I think you should be ok, especially if both cars are the same model year.
Usually yes...there are always oddities though, sometimes HUGE oddities even of the same year/make/model
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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I get the idea..so you mean that I have to copy table for table?

I want to know if I can copy my whole Camaro Tune and upload it into his PCM..
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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If its compatible it should be able to be just flashed straight in. Be weary though as there may be differences you aren't aware of. If you did want to go down that path I would recommend you do a compare in the VCM tuner and just review all the tables to make sure nothing stands out that could cause issue.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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What year model PCMs are we talking about here and are both M6s? If there are differences between the OSs then you may have to copy just individual tables here and there to get what you need.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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copy with labels, then paste
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I get the idea..so you mean that I have to copy table for table?

I want to know if I can copy my whole Camaro Tune and upload it into his PCM..
You can use the copy over differences feature in the vcm editor, literally takes about 20 seconds to copy over all the differences from one file to another. I create a demo showing exactly how to do it, its located in the demo's section of our forum.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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I loaded a 2001 6 speed camaro operating system into my 2000 with no issues. Stupid secondary VE tables anyways
Not all of the tables were the same but I used the compare feature and copied all of the tables I could. I tuned the 2001 Camaro and it had a 408 stroker so I just reset everything back to my settings. Since I already had credits for my computer and his tune it cost me nothing extra.
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