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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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ok, so the car is throwing both of those codes, stating a lean condition in both banks. it is NOT throwing a code for either o2 sensor. I have LT's and TSP duals, and the car is untuned. so any suggestions on what might be causing the condition, because i dont have the money to just throw parts at it, IE: new o2's, etc, if i don't have a pretty good idea thats the problem. both o2 sensors are less than a year old btw
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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your car is running lean, 171 is bank 1 and 174 is bank 2 both codes are system too lean bank 1 and 2, get it tuned.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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thanks kevin. i forgot to mention, the car has been down on gas mileage by about 2-3 mpg on average since the SES light came on, and it stumbles a little bit at idle and sometimes in the lower RPM range. i am assuming the mileage is being affected by the PCM dumping fuel in order to compensate for the lean condition? i may be comin to see ya for a tune once i get the break in miles on the transmission so i can go WOT again
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good chance the o2s are bad because the coating from the headers kills an o2 sensor as it breaks in. Use a multimeter on the dc volts (0-1v) and see what it reads. It should bounce around from 100-900mV. o2 sensors usually fail low (lean)
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Originally Posted by 78novacaine
thanks kevin. i forgot to mention, the car has been down on gas mileage by about 2-3 mpg on average since the SES light came on, and it stumbles a little bit at idle and sometimes in the lower RPM range. i am assuming the mileage is being affected by the PCM dumping fuel in order to compensate for the lean condition? i may be comin to see ya for a tune once i get the break in miles on the transmission so i can go WOT again
I bet lol, good deal see ya soon.
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