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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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when adjusting fuel for AFR @ WOT are people making changes in MAF table or the VE table??

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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If the MAF table is tuned/re-curved for your car - then it should be a case of changing the PE table accordingly, as you aren't increasing airflow.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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if you tune both of them then you dont have to worry
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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I think the original poster's question was at WOT, which table is the pcm using to calculate fueling.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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My tuner commanded a certain AFR at WOT (12.6), then used the VE table and made adjustments there until the car hit the desired 12.6 AFR at WOT. This was in an MAFless speed density tune, but even with a MAF the fueling is calculated from the VE table.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:06 AM
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unless your running with SD then you would change it with the maf since the factory setting is maf only for airflow 4400rpms and up. below 4400rpms its a combo of the maf/ve table the pcm uses for fueling.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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As above you have to do both unless above the MAF only parameter which is normally ~4000rpm
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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if you tune both of them then you dont have to worry
What he said...
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You tune the VE and Maf for drivabilty to around 4000rpm, and then you can tune the VE as well for WOT and then tune the MAF for WOT to get your desired AFR. This way if your MAF ever happens to go bad, if tuned properly you will never know the MAF failed other than the check engine light on the dash..
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
You tune the VE and Maf for drivabilty to around 4000rpm, and then you can tune the VE as well for WOT and then tune the MAF for WOT to get your desired AFR. This way if your MAF ever happens to go bad, if tuned properly you will never know the MAF failed other than the check engine light on the dash..
i'm now finishing calibrating my VE and the MAF to 4000rpms....

but if i wante to calbrate the WOT
should i then adjust the desired numbers in PE table,
and log the WOT
should i calbrate in the MAF table or in the VE table

or maby both

thanks

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by baezi z06
i'm now finishing calibrating my VE and the MAF to 4000rpms....

but if i wante to calbrate the WOT
should i then adjust the desired numbers in PE table,
and log the WOT
should i calbrate in the MAF table or in the VE table

or maby both

thanks

Baezi
Adjusting the PE only alters the commanded AFR. You won't have to touch that as what your doing by tuning your MAF and or VE is getting the commanded AFR to match the actual AFR.

Above 4000rpm the controller is set (stock value) to run exclusively off the MAF. Its always best practice to tune the VE here too but you have to turn the MAF off the same as you would when tuning below 4000rpm (which I hope your doing as if your not you'll never get it right).
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by macca_779
Adjusting the PE only alters the commanded AFR. You won't have to touch that as what your doing by tuning your MAF and or VE is getting the commanded AFR to match the actual AFR.

Above 4000rpm the controller is set (stock value) to run exclusively off the MAF. Its always best practice to tune the VE here too but you have to turn the MAF off the same as you would when tuning below 4000rpm (which I hope your doing as if your not you'll never get it right).
the MAF is off , when i´m calibrating VE tablet...

then if i understand you right. after 4000 for WOT i should do a MAF only calibrate and use the PE tablet numbers do get right calibrateing numbers for example if i adjust all collums in PE for 12.6 at WOT i should get the MAF only WOT readings to that and only change in MAF Hz tablet

am i on the right track here....

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