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Old 07-11-2010, 09:27 PM
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Can the PCM adjust or change the values in the Individual Cylinder Fuel trim tables? or is it a fixed reference point?

The reason I ask is because I have recently started to try tuning myself and am just learning the software before I try to make any changes. But while looking at my tables I noticed that for instance the Idle ICFT table has different tables values for each cylinder
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The bin file I have from this pcm has these values as:

1.06
0.95
0.95
1.00
0.98
0.95
0.94
1.08
for Idle

and...
1.03
0.98
1.02
1.02
0.99
0.97
0.98
1.02
off idle

why are they different?

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The two bottom tables look about right. What did that top one come from?
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The two bottom tables look about right. What did that top one come from?
I agree. I just went and looked over a bunch of files, and they were all pretty close to the bottom 2 tables the OP posted.

What file are we working with?
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This is a OBD1 LT1. I think when I was playing with the program trying to get familiar with it I figured out what was up with the first two sets of numbers, I had been looking at a data log session that I did and somehow it was pulling the screwy numers from that and not the .Bin file.

However; I still am wondering about the second set of values, Shouldn't they be all equal for a base tune? aren't these tables constants? OR can the PCM adust these values over time? This is a mail order tune.
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Originally Posted by Raven97
This is a OBD1 LT1. I think when I was playing with the program trying to get familiar with it I figured out what was up with the first two sets of numbers, I had been looking at a data log session that I did and somehow it was pulling the screwy numers from that and not the .Bin file.

However; I still am wondering about the second set of values, Shouldn't they be all equal for a base tune? aren't these tables constants? OR can the PCM adust these values over time? This is a mail order tune.
Nope, air flow distribution changes through the manifold as the throttle opens and RPM goes up. No, the PCM can't change them. You can but you should know what you are doing.
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Ok that is what I thought, So why wouldn't the individual fuel trims all be equal for a baseline tune? wouldn't they be the same and then you make adjustments from there?
I understand they should be tuned very carefully such as with individual EGT sensors in each header primary.

Thanks for helping a beginner!
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No, I believe they're different because each cylinder reacts different based on the design of the intake manifold from the factory. those are the numbers already in the tune for that specific reason.
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I see, that makes sense. Like I said I am just learning and reading before I try to touch anything in the tune. Thanks guys



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