How not to tune!!
Funny you should say that.
Now, most of you know I'm not one to talk smack about other tuners, just out of respect. But this guy is totally different. He's a real piece of work.
Drum roll please. This tune is brought to you by none other than the great Jeff Creech of Carolina Auto Masters! FWIW, I've retuned literally dozens of cars from him over the years. They're ALL terrible, but this one kinda takes the cake.
Now, most of you know I'm not one to talk smack about other tuners, just out of respect. But this guy is totally different. He's a real piece of work.
Drum roll please. This tune is brought to you by none other than the great Jeff Creech of Carolina Auto Masters! FWIW, I've retuned literally dozens of cars from him over the years. They're ALL terrible, but this one kinda takes the cake.
Of course I am no "tuner" but I do not claim to be either!
I really like the "about us" on their site:
"our approach is both scientific as well as "I don't understand why, but it just works".
"our approach is both scientific as well as "I don't understand why, but it just works".
Last edited by bigboykilroy; Mar 30, 2011 at 03:38 PM.
Jeff Creech, the tuner for Carolina Auto Masters has tuned over 2000 GM cars and trucks, not only at the shop in Durham, NC but as a guest tuner in cities across the country, including: LA area California, Frederick Maryland, Dallas Texas, Chesapeake Virginia, even Puerto Rico! Ask around on www.camaroz28.com, www.ls1tech.com, www.corvetteforum.com, www.ls2gto.com, www.z06vette.com, etc. You'll find happy customers everywhere you look.
Pulled right off their website. lol
Pulled right off their website. lol
At least he didn't wreck the car joy riding it. I thought it was the same place and sure enough...
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217323
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217323
Jeff Creech, the tuner for Carolina Auto Masters has tuned over 2000 GM cars and trucks, not only at the shop in Durham, NC but as a guest tuner in cities across the country, including: LA area California, Frederick Maryland, Dallas Texas, Chesapeake Virginia, even Puerto Rico! Ask around on www.camaroz28.com, www.ls1tech.com, www.corvetteforum.com, www.ls2gto.com, www.z06vette.com, etc. You'll find happy customers everywhere you look.
Pulled right off their website. lol
Pulled right off their website. lol
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At least he didn't wreck the car joy riding it. I thought it was the same place and sure enough...
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217323
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217323
It was sad about the C6....let one of his employees joy ride it for the weekend and it got totaled!
Quote: Ask around on www.camaroz28.com, www.ls1tech.com
Sticky In tuning LS1.com: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75979
I would not be sending people to them for a reference.
Sticky In tuning LS1.com: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75979
I would not be sending people to them for a reference.
Funny you should say that.
Now, most of you know I'm not one to talk smack about other tuners, just out of respect. But this guy is totally different. He's a real piece of work.
Drum roll please. This tune is brought to you by none other than the great Jeff Creech of Carolina Auto Masters! FWIW, I've retuned literally dozens of cars from him over the years. They're ALL terrible, but this one kinda takes the cake.
Now, most of you know I'm not one to talk smack about other tuners, just out of respect. But this guy is totally different. He's a real piece of work.
Drum roll please. This tune is brought to you by none other than the great Jeff Creech of Carolina Auto Masters! FWIW, I've retuned literally dozens of cars from him over the years. They're ALL terrible, but this one kinda takes the cake.
Interesting... this is like sitting round a campfire as a lad listening to stories about the Loch Ness Monster or the Big Bad Wolf - only this one is real. The stories are too crazy to believe, yet you do believe and you're always scared of the tagline even though you know what it is. In this case every few months this guys work and name pops up - yet again with the usual onslaught of "don't go to him" and "did you hear what he messed up" stories.
My only question is why is this guy still able to tune cars or even alive? I'm not implying anything rash, but seriously this guy has messed up a ton of cars over several years if even half of the stories I've heard are true. I'm surprised there isn't a line of picketers in front of his shop warning the meek and uninformed to steer clear. If one of the cars were mine that was damaged or destroyed, lets just say I would be more than a little pissed. 
My only question is why is this guy still able to tune cars or even alive? I'm not implying anything rash, but seriously this guy has messed up a ton of cars over several years if even half of the stories I've heard are true. I'm surprised there isn't a line of picketers in front of his shop warning the meek and uninformed to steer clear. If one of the cars were mine that was damaged or destroyed, lets just say I would be more than a little pissed.
He even told one guy he needed to drill his C5 throttle body LOL
The sad part is the customer goes to them first getting the deal. Then you have to fix it.
We have a few people like him up here. They drill the TB and adjust PE. Pretty common to see PE commanded at 9.5-1 to 10.5-1 up here.
We have a few people like him up here. They drill the TB and adjust PE. Pretty common to see PE commanded at 9.5-1 to 10.5-1 up here.
Oh jesus You must have been really pissed ! Thats the first time Ive heard or read VA speed dissin some body. Thats not the worst I seen but dam!!. I retuned a car the guy had a 3/8 hole in the throttle body blade, Then scaled the injectors so bad. How in the hell do you have a 130% duty cycle on Motorns 42# injectors with a head and cam 6.0 ltr?
You see a LOT more than I do up here (I've probably only tuned 50 or so cars)...but I agree. There are a lot of disasters.
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That's just aweful. The drilling the throttle body thing is the lazy way to fix it and sadly a lot of tuners are lazy like that. Had a guy local to me tune my truck bout three years ago. I won't mention the name cause I believe he's a sponsor. But he drilled my throttle body. Well when the truck cranked it would rev to about 2800 and hang there about 20 seconds, even dead cold. The guy told me that that was the best it was gonna get. After two years I had another guy look a it and he said the same thing. After learning a small amount about tuning I bought credits for my truck and had it cranking normal in about five minutes. Some tuners just plain suck.
