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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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......What additional tables can you see with HP Tuner/Editor that you Cannot see with LS1Edit???? Thanks.

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Somebody should make a lineup list to further drive
healthy tuning-features competition in this market.



"When" EFI Live and TunerCat get shipping we can
add them too.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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I just got my sw today and these are what I've seen so far in HP Tuner that I don't see in LS1 Edit (1.4) and vice versa:

1, Max KR vs. Map (Not in PE)
2. Max KR vs. RPM (in PE)
3. EGR Spark Advance correction - Add
4. Startup spark correction mult vs. startup ECT
5. Startup spark correction

There are a few other tables. Some table names are slightly different.

The 2 tables I see in Edit v1.4 that I don't see in HP Tuner are the DFCO and Spark Retard Limit tables.

My 1st impression is that tables are very nicely arranged and all appears w/in the app window, unlike Edit which has each table in its own window (dialog). And it took only a bit over 2 min to read the PCM.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I just got my sw today and these are what I've seen so far in HP Tuner that I don't see in LS1 Edit (1.4) and vice versa:

1, Max KR vs. Map (Not in PE)
2. Max KR vs. RPM (in PE)
3. EGR Spark Advance correction - Add
4. Startup spark correction mult vs. startup ECT
5. Startup spark correction

There are a few other tables. Some table names are slightly different.

The 2 tables I see in Edit v1.4 that I don't see in HP Tuner are the DFCO and Spark Retard Limit tables.

My 1st impression is that tables are very nicely arranged and all appears w/in the app window, unlike Edit which has each table in its own window (dialog). And it took only a bit over 2 min to read the PCM.
Thanks Sonny! Super fast read. Could you post up some picks of the tables you've listed (especially #4 & #5) ???


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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I just got my sw today and these are what I've seen so far in HP Tuner that I don't see in LS1 Edit (1.4) and vice versa:

1, Max KR vs. Map (Not in PE)
2. Max KR vs. RPM (in PE)
3. EGR Spark Advance correction - Add
4. Startup spark correction mult vs. startup ECT
5. Startup spark correction

There are a few other tables. Some table names are slightly different.

The 2 tables I see in Edit v1.4 that I don't see in HP Tuner are the DFCO and Spark Retard Limit tables.

My 1st impression is that tables are very nicely arranged and all appears w/in the app window, unlike Edit which has each table in its own window (dialog). And it took only a bit over 2 min to read the PCM.
Interesting... I have #1 and #2 in my Edit v1.4. The tables are called "Max KR vs Load" (MAP) in non-PE mode and "Max KR vs RPM" in PE mode. These are the two bottom buttons in the KR section of the ignition tab.
Also, wouldn't #4 and #5 corrspond to the "Coolant Temp Spark Advance" and "Base Spark in Park" tables in Edit?
Thanks for the info...
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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I went back and looked and Deezel is on the #1 and #2. Those are the same.
I still can't find #4 and #5 in Edit v1.4.
"Coolant Temp Spark Advance" is the "ECT spark correction - Add" in HPTuner
"Base Spark in Park" has same simliar name in HPTuner.

Edit: The Startup correction table contains just 0's for my 99 PCM. Screenshot of the #4 is in the attachment.
Attached Thumbnails Those who have LS1Edit and HP Tuner ...-spark-adv.jpg   Those who have LS1Edit and HP Tuner ...-spark-retard.jpg   Those who have LS1Edit and HP Tuner ...-startup-spark.jpg  

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I went back and looked and Deezel is on the #1 and #2. Those are the same.
I still can't find #4 and #5 in Edit v1.4.
"Coolant Temp Spark Advance" is the "ECT spark correction - Add" in HPTuner
"Base Spark in Park" has same simliar name in HPTuner.

Edit: The Startup correction table contains just 0's for my 99 PCM. Screenshot of the #4 is in the attachment.
Thanks! Last one "Startup Spark Mult" doesn't look familiar. New one??
"Start up correction' - doesn't seem familiar either?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bink
Thanks! Last one "Startup Spark Mult" doesn't look familiar. New one??
"Start up correction' - doesn't seem familiar either?
Yep, #4 and #5 are the ones I don't see in Edit (1.4).
Personally, I don't think they're significant though.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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4. Startup spark correction mult vs. startup ECT <-- would this allow tuning of cold & warm start a little more? Say if i had warm restart issues?

Spark Retard Limit tables <-- i thought this is how you reduce the maximum timing retard during shifts by limiting the max spark retard at your WOT shift points in an A4 car? (ie my car goes to 0 degrees during shifts, limiting it to say 20 degrees at the shift point rpm range @ wot, would limit this 0 degree crap, with some dangerous results possibly with a aggressive tune and crap gas, but maybe not).

just curious ,, i have little knowledge of either but am looking for real world examples of why i might need some tables in hptuner
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by samz28
4. Startup spark correction mult vs. startup ECT <-- would this allow tuning of cold & warm start a little more? Say if i had warm restart issues?

Spark Retard Limit tables <-- i thought this is how you reduce the maximum timing retard during shifts by limiting the max spark retard at your WOT shift points in an A4 car? (ie my car goes to 0 degrees during shifts, limiting it to say 20 degrees at the shift point rpm range @ wot, would limit this 0 degree crap, with some dangerous results possibly with a aggressive tune and crap gas, but maybe not).

just curious ,, i have little knowledge of either but am looking for real world examples of why i might need some tables in hptuner
Seems interesting to me ...might be an easier/more exact way to maintain spark advance at cold startup.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bink
Seems interesting to me ...might be an easier/more exact way to maintain spark advance at cold startup.
from our user manual:

Startup Spark Correction: During the first 80 seconds of engine operation the VCM has the ability to modify the spark advance based on cylinder air and time. Generally this is used to assist in cold start low speed drivability. The Multiplier table is used to enable and disable startup spark correction based on coolant temperature it is a proportional value between 0 and 1. This value adds to the spark advance.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Is there a website for HP Tuner? What is it? I found LS1 edit doing a google search.
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Originally Posted by z28dan
Is there a website for HP Tuner? What is it? I found LS1 edit doing a google search.
http://hptuners.com/
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I went back and looked and Deezel is on the #1 and #2. Those are the same.
I still can't find #4 and #5 in Edit v1.4.
"Coolant Temp Spark Advance" is the "ECT spark correction - Add" in HPTuner
"Base Spark in Park" has same simliar name in HPTuner.

Edit: The Startup correction table contains just 0's for my 99 PCM. Screenshot of the #4 is in the attachment.
Thanks for the screenshots. Interesting new tables.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
I went back and looked and Deezel is on the #1 and #2. Those are the same.
I still can't find #4 and #5 in Edit v1.4.
"Coolant Temp Spark Advance" is the "ECT spark correction - Add" in HPTuner
"Base Spark in Park" has same simliar name in HPTuner.

Edit: The Startup correction table contains just 0's for my 99 PCM. Screenshot of the #4 is in the attachment.

Interesting tables in HP Tuners- not a huge benefit tho.... See JPG.s in above post by Sonny.FWIW.
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