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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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i posted a link on hptuners forum but no one uses it any more.

i have a v6 car but i was hoping you guys could check out my scan and tune to see if you see any issues or tips on my tune.

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http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39498
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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the unlocked tune is the #6 post
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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nothing here either huh?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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I had a setup similar to yours, except with a SSIC, but also a VS cam and I was able to drop to a 3.0 pulley.

A cam/headers GTP should be running a 3.5 easily... unless you have a high compression block.

Do you have a screenshot of one of your scans of when the knock happens?

what's your commanded AFR and if you have a wideband what is it reading? How much timming are you running at WOT? Also need to know what your IPW is at.

How much KR do have? can you hear it ping?

There's lots of stuff that can cause it, need more info.

Have you raised the numbers in the max torque allowed in the torque management tables?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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ok well the knock starts at 4700 then at 5200 rpms it goes into full mode (what ever i have the maximum retard set to it goes there)

the block is a 9.5:1 cr. im running a 3.5 pulley

even before i was SC the knock retard was still there (since i put my first cam in) and no matter the timing im running its still there in wot. so if im at 0* of timing WOT or 16* of timing at WOT the same amount of knock retard is there.

no i cant hear the pinging at all and not once have a blown a motor.

afr is 11:1 WB confirmed
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also it has a 78mm tb, headers and 160* running temp..... it shouldnt have knock but now that im actually making power im afraid i might actually break something
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it is def. false knock. if you pull a bunch of timing and it's still there, i HIGHLY doubt it's true
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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yea i just really want to figure out whats causeing it and im gunna have to slap it on the dyno with knock retard off :/ oh well
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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colder spark plug too I suppose? Did you check the torque management section also? I'm taking a wild guess here, but I also had a crazy knock problem except it happened almost at any throttle position and it got fixed after I tried another PCM.

Besides that, check your basics and see if your headers are not hitting anything. Try to rock the engine while you're underneath it. Is it a GTP or a V6 camaro with m90 swap?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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camaro with a m90 swap and im leaning towards another pcm just didnt want to dump the money yet but if i have to, i have to. and torque management is off
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