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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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ok so i have a LQ4 6.0L with a ls1 intake, ls1 heads which changed the compression to 10 to 1, and a GM hot cam in it, i am also wanting to switch it to speed density over MAF, i have been getting told by some tuners it can take upwards of 4 hours or more to tune it, its in a tube buggy rock crawler, i was also thinking about for what they are going to charge me to get HP tuners or EFI live and get it really close and get it dyno tuned to fine tune. so my question is should it be that hard to tune or is everyone over thinking it? thanks
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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any ideas?
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4 hours is unreasonable? If the end result is right I wouldn't care if it took a week. Lol
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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4 hours is unreasonable? If the end result is right I wouldn't care if it took a week. Lol
when your paying 100 bucks an hour i would sure hope it wouldnt take a week. i was just wanting to see if it would be better to tune it my self or take it somewhere. if i am going to pay out the noise to tune it i would atleast get it dyno tuned not just driving around with him with a laptop.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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I would get a good begining tuning book like Dan Maslic's Master EFI Tuner and read it. Then decide if you want to try it yourself. Personally I think you're over rating a dyno tune. Even after a dyno tune need to do some drivability tuning, if you plan on doing steet driving
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pacer Racer
I would get a good begining tuning book like Dan Maslic's Master EFI Tuner and read it. Then decide if you want to try it yourself. Personally I think you're over rating a dyno tune. Even after a dyno tune need to do some drivability tuning, if you plan on doing steet driving
could be, but atleast i feel like im helping pay for the dyno versus someone just sitting there doing trial and error for a few hours at my expense.
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A proper street tune will be better in the end. If you are inclined and have the patience I would do it yourself but you will spend more than $400 doing it. Think of it this way. Nobody will spend the time making it perfect like you will. Nobody will drive the car like you or experience all the same situations as you will over time either
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You will be a lot happier with the street tune . The dyno tune will be great for WOT but the street tune will make your car drive great all the time.
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I've got years and years of experience and I'm still learning stuff on a weekly basis. A good dyno/street tune will lilely be cheaper than you buying HPtuners and learning it yourself because if the tuner is worth his salt he likely also has years and years of experience.

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A proper street tune will be better in the end. If you are inclined and have the patience I would do it yourself but you will spend more than $400 doing it. Think of it this way. Nobody will spend the time making it perfect like you will. Nobody will drive the car like you or experience all the same situations as you will over time either
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You'll need a good wide band too. You can probably find a decent base tune in the repository for that simple of a setup too
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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thanks for all the responses. i guess the reason i was thinking a dyno tune would be better is a friend of mind did a mail order tune, then had it dyno tuned and gained quite a bit from it, and it seems locally the only person that does do street tuning has only been doing it a few years and is kinda stuck in his ways of which cam to run etc ( i think because thats all he has files for) etc.
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