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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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what timing are you guys & gals running? i believe i asked my tuner what timing i had & he said 28 degrees. i read a mag article that said factory timing was 32 and if you bumped it up 6-8 degrees you could gain upto 25 more hp? any thoughts? cheers everybody!
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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factory timing is more like 25 26
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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Stocking timing differs from autos to 6sp. However neither had 28 from factory. 28 is the norm on a bolt-on stock head car. When you get better heads and such sometimes you can get away with less timing. Main thing to remember is not to chase a timing number however give the car what it wants to make power.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 04:33 AM
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98-00 LS1s have up to 28 degrees stock. I run about 25, down to 23 at peak torque. Any more than that tends to knock on my car and doesn't give much if any more power.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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the article i have is from hot rod jan 2006 "ls1 cookbook", pg 107 says according to comp, gm runs only 32 degrees of timing , they think another 6-8 degrees of lead might be worth 25hp. that always bothered me thinking i left something on the table. cheers! n thx 4 clearing that up.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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That seems like a very dangerous article that aligns itself with the misconception that more timing=more power. Definitely not true in the LSx world. In an LS1, running the 38-40* advance they suggest would put a rod through your block in no time. Not sure any ls setup would need that much.
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Old Oct 12, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Maybe they meant 32* at part throttle or cruising?
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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He has a '98. OEM High Octane Spark from 5600 to 8000 rpms is 28* WOT.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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This is what my 2001 trans am had for timing 100% stock. The pink/purple highlighted cells are WOT timing.

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:24 AM
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That table is somewhat detuned in the mid range. Guess GM didn't want it knocking on the Corvette's door. You can run a fair bit more timing in the 2000-3600 rpm range and pick up mid range torque. From 4400-up it's about right assuming good fuel.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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wow, thx 4 the chart viny, great info! now i wish i knew what my timing chart is
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if the fuel is right then from 1800 rpm to MBT which is around 4600 rpm u can run about 27 degrees of timing, and maybe 29 right before MBT then drop it to about 24-25 degrees, then pick up the timing at around 5600 rpmto 28ish. Thats on a bolt on ls1, if the heads are milled or if the engine can breathe better, the air injection will increase (g/cyl) and have to reduce timing in a row or two down.
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The stock high octane table for 2000 has 29 deg. at 3200 rpm for the whole upper half of the cyl. air range, and 29 deg is the peak wot timing across the rpm range. The stock low octane table value at 3200 is 19 deg. If knock is detected I believe the high and low values are averaged somehow.

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