Worth adding EFILive to ATAP Enhanced?
EFILive IIRC is specific to LS1/ls6 engines wher Atap is generic.
www.efilive.com should sqaure you away
www.efilive.com should sqaure you away
I'm not familiar with ATAP Enhanced, but over ATAP
EFILive offers higher rate logging (24PIDs @ 10/sec),
the bidirectional controls in the Pro version (great for
the home-maintenance, home-diagnosis people and
for dyno controls), and I believe some kinds of special
and derived PIDs that ATAP doesn't give. But maybe
ATAP has improved since I cared to look (I bought
EFILive a year or two back).
For an LS-1 EFILive has the most useful coverage
and best performance. Whether it makes economic
sense for you, is your judgement call.
EFILive offers higher rate logging (24PIDs @ 10/sec),
the bidirectional controls in the Pro version (great for
the home-maintenance, home-diagnosis people and
for dyno controls), and I believe some kinds of special
and derived PIDs that ATAP doesn't give. But maybe
ATAP has improved since I cared to look (I bought
EFILive a year or two back).
For an LS-1 EFILive has the most useful coverage
and best performance. Whether it makes economic
sense for you, is your judgement call.
Add to that list...
1. EFILive will actually stay connected to the car
2. EFILive has a better interface (IMHO)
3. EFILive has MUCH better graphing -- makes it a lot easier to zero in on where you need to tune
4. EFILive has the ability to pull trouble codes from other modules on the bus
5. EFILive has LS1-specific stuff like pulling the entire LTrim map from the PCM.. VERY nice..
6. EFILive will be releasing a tuning tool sometime in the future, that will go hand in hand with the scanning package.
7. EFILive has great customer support, B&B (AutoTap) is so-so.
1. EFILive will actually stay connected to the car
2. EFILive has a better interface (IMHO)
3. EFILive has MUCH better graphing -- makes it a lot easier to zero in on where you need to tune
4. EFILive has the ability to pull trouble codes from other modules on the bus
5. EFILive has LS1-specific stuff like pulling the entire LTrim map from the PCM.. VERY nice..
6. EFILive will be releasing a tuning tool sometime in the future, that will go hand in hand with the scanning package.
7. EFILive has great customer support, B&B (AutoTap) is so-so.
Sorry for the dumb question, I am new here. What is the diff. between hptuners and efi live? Do they do the same thing. I am putting an ls1 in a 69 camaro. Any idea which one i would need? How do you know what you doing, Are there any books on tuneing? Thanks ken 
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Originally Posted by ahowudoin
Sorry for the dumb question, I am new here. What is the diff. between hptuners and efi live? Do they do the same thing. I am putting an ls1 in a 69 camaro. Any idea which one i would need? How do you know what you doing, Are there any books on tuneing? Thanks ken
HP Tuners is a scanner and PCM programmer in 1. The scanner is better than Autotap but not quite as good as EFI Live (yet). For everything I need to look for the HP Tuners scanner has been fine... and it's really fast (not sure on exact speed but it's lightning fast compared to my old autotap V1 cable)
Regarding how to know what your doing... read this forum and experiment
I bought LS1 Edit over 2 years ago and just played w/the tables... read the board, etc... (I switched to HP tuners several weeks ago)EFI Live allows for temporary adjustments to certain PCM Parameters (if you get the pro bi-directional version) however once the laptop is disconnected your changes are gone... HP Tuners actually flashes the PCM so the changes aren't lost...
