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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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How do you guys/gals feel about turning off knock sensors? Time to time around 3500rpm or so, the car will pull back, bog down and then come alive again around 4000rpm. I used a scan tool to watch ignition timing while driving and it drops back to 8-10 degrees. I asked my tuner about the question and we believe my exhaust header is hitting the frame under hard acceleration. He said that he has also seen the issue on crummy fitting headers for Corvette and will see a "false" knock.

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Longtubes all stock otherwise
Currently at around 27 deg total timing
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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I shut them off in my personal cars and a select few of customer cars that race a lot. If the tune is done right it shouldn't be a problem.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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So your knock sensor tables are set up to pull 17-19 degrees of timing in PE mode?
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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I would be nervous about it. I once got some really bad gas and they were working to help it before the car developed other symptoms (hesitations, bucking, audible knock ping, etc).
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 06:54 AM
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can't you just de-sensitize them a % to reduce false knock? If the header is hitting the frame, you should be able to see where that is happening and take corrective actions.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:50 AM
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Take said car to an exhaust shop and let them fix the real problem, might be worth the $50-100.00.

Why mask the problem and if you get bad gas the PCM can't do its job.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Get a grinder and jack the car up and cut that ****. Turning off the sensors is pretty dumb unless it's a race car. No gas is the same even from the same station.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I shut them off in my personal cars and a select few of customer cars that race a lot. If the tune is done right it shouldn't be a problem.
Same here^^^
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