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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Car: 2001 Camaro A4

Mods: Lid, longtubes, cam (232/234 617/598 112+2) SS3600 converter, 3.42 gears.

Car is tuned, idles fine. While coming to a stop car will sometimes stall for no reason. Not a quick closure of the TB like coming from a burnout, slow driving then a stop.

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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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was this present immediately after the cam and converter swap or did it just start happening?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Post the tune?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 05:45 PM
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After cam swap .. Converter been in car for 3+ yrs
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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I have the same thing sometimes, it's more pronounced when I come to a complete stop really quickly. So far haven't figured out what's doing that.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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On some model*year factory files I've seen really kooky
throttle cracker maps which have a "divot" near return-
to-idle which could be a destabilizing "event" if you step
in it and the motor is already struggling a bit. With the
big cam I'd expect idle and transition-to-idle to need a
lot of fine fiddling.

In the attached pic, note how many cells of the cracker
give zero help as you approach idle (left side, stock '02
F-body tune file) and how the airflow adder is jerked
around variably by how you approach 0,0. This could be
a "stimulus" the idle RPM is forced to react to, and that
loop is a soggy piece of **** even when you don't challenge
it with a cam and bad tune data elsewhere (jacked VE,
false trimming, etc.).

On the right is where my setup sits, a smooth and sane
"weaning" as you approach 0,0 from any direction. I
get no idle undershoot except in reverse, a little (a
common issue, I have yet to see anyone say why but
many say "me too").

Have a look at this feature, in your tune.

<note: for some reason my nice high resolution .png file
is turned into a low res crappy .jpg by the site; if you
need a better copy let me know where to email it>
Attached Thumbnails Odd stalling issue-stock_vs_smooth_throttle_cracker.jpg  
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Jimmy, what would be the tables to look at for a DBW throttle?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Issue is at normal slow down .. Fast slow down has been good .. I can barely see the pics on my phone .. Pm sent wit my email
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If it's ever since the cam install I'd definitely say tune related.
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Look at your throttle follower tables
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