Whats needed when buying HPtuners?
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Whats needed when buying HPtuners? I'm going to purchase HPtuners and attempt to tune my own vehicles and a few friends. I'm completely new to this so bare with me. What exactly am I going to need to start. I see on the HPtuners sight a VCMsuite and a VCMscanner. Do I need both or just the VCMsuite. I all ready have a laptop and I know I'll need a wideband and I've all ready ordered the Masport master efi book. What else would be useful for somebody new to this? Also when using the wideband do I just remove one stock 02 sensor and plug in the wideband or do I need some sort of tailpipe attachment? Thanks
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Personally, I'd get the hp tuners pro, the scanner is included. Get a decent wideband O2. I have the book you mentioned and it should be enough to get you started. Don't be shocked if you spend hour upon hour searching for answers to simple questions. Hp tuners forum is your friend, use it before asking. If you can find someone to help you out at first it will speed up the learning curve. Good luck
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ngk is a good unit ive been using them for years on atv and sleds and drag cars very accurate and easy to use and setupm you will need to add a bung to the exhaust but its included in the kit just run over to an exhaust shop have them install it up front someplace either in the headed or close the collector and your all set
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I use an Innovate LC2, works well and is easy to install. We use an Innovate LM at work, works good. Never heard anything bad about the NGK or the Fast WB's. Pick one that fits your needs and budget.
I'd certainly get the Pro version. That's what I bought and it's nice software. Plus "easy" for the wideband hookup.
I started about 1.5 years ago, and have spent COUNTLESS hours working with the software and searching.
Nobody in my area or within my circle of hot-rodders knows anything about it, so it's been an uphill battle. Frustrating for simple things like correctly scaling the wideband input and figuring out which ignition table the engine is using during which phase of operation.
In 10 years I don't see factory PCM's and all the headaches being very popular when companies like Holley are really stepping up to the plate with their engine management systems. Most of us don't need 200 tables for what we're doing.
I started about 1.5 years ago, and have spent COUNTLESS hours working with the software and searching.
Nobody in my area or within my circle of hot-rodders knows anything about it, so it's been an uphill battle. Frustrating for simple things like correctly scaling the wideband input and figuring out which ignition table the engine is using during which phase of operation.
In 10 years I don't see factory PCM's and all the headaches being very popular when companies like Holley are really stepping up to the plate with their engine management systems. Most of us don't need 200 tables for what we're doing.
I'm going to purchase HPtuners and attempt to tune my own vehicles and a few friends. I'm completely new to this so bare with me. What exactly am I going to need to start. I see on the HPtuners sight a VCMsuite and a VCMscanner. Do I need both or just the VCMsuite. I all ready have a laptop and I know I'll need a wideband and I've all ready ordered the Masport master efi book. What else would be useful for somebody new to this? Also when using the wideband do I just remove one stock 02 sensor and plug in the wideband or do I need some sort of tailpipe attachment? Thanks
And yes, just remove one of the front O2 sensors to install the wideband.
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VCM Suite Pro is the way to go.
I'd also pick up a Ballenger AFR500 with the NTK wideband sensor. It's the same as the NGK PowerDex, which is one of the best in the ~$300 price point. NGK went to a second gen unit with a different design, but I wanted the PowerDex. So I picked up the Ballenger unit.
I'd also pick up a Ballenger AFR500 with the NTK wideband sensor. It's the same as the NGK PowerDex, which is one of the best in the ~$300 price point. NGK went to a second gen unit with a different design, but I wanted the PowerDex. So I picked up the Ballenger unit.
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