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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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Finally got my 5.3 running only for a second because the vats is still on the PCM.

I know I will need to tune out
-VATS.
-rear o2 sensors
-torque management
-fan control

I also need to perform a segment swap. The 4l80e is actually from a 2008 express van and the motor and pcm is from a 2004 Chevy truck. I believe after 2007 the transmissions were controlled by a tcm not the pcm. Can I still control the newer transmission with the 2004 PCM?

Can I perform all these things and a segment swap with hp tuners standard?

Do I use up any additional credits to do a segment swap.

Most of us are running junkyard PCMs in our swaps so what happens if my PCM takes a dump. Do i need to use 2 additional credits to license another junkyard PCM?

I assume HP tuners won't have any problem tuning the PCM in a swap vehicle?

Sorry for all the question hopefully I can better inform myself before purchasing the software.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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Hello 72Vega,

I think you might get more help on the HP tuners forum. I know segment swaps can be done without extra credits if you get the segment from a registered tune. I'm confused about the actual harness. I think the plugs that went to your TCM will need to go somewhere but I have no idea how to perform that swap. Good luck man!
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. I actually have the wiring part figured out . The transmission uses the exact same connectors as the 4l60e. Just had to add another vss sensor plug (there are 2 of them on the 4l80e) a few pins in the computer needed to be moved as well. On lt1swap.com it shows exactly how to do it. Just wasn't sure if the newer transmissions needed a newer tune than what the 04 would have had.

Would hp tuners have a problem doing any of the other stuff mentioned? I am going to check out that forum. Thanks appreciate the response.

Any idea where the best place to buy hp tuners would be? I am in Canada and the $500 package now turns into almost 800 dollars because of the exchange rate. Sucks. Unless I find a used version
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Old Nov 1, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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I would beware the VIN consistency issues on such a
cobble, licensing can be tricky (what does the PCM
think it is, etc.). It would be good to talk to someone
about licensing and support (try support@hptuners.com)
before you invest in tools. Let alone start trying to use
segment-swapped files you find on the Internet, which
may look like some other vehicle (there goes licensing
again).
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 02:18 AM
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Hptuners will perform the segment swap for free if you contact them and send them your file. That's what I did.
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 72vega383
Finally got my 5.3 running only for a second because the vats is still on the PCM.

I know I will need to tune out
-VATS.
-rear o2 sensors
-torque management
-fan control

I also need to perform a segment swap. The 4l80e is actually from a 2008 express van and the motor and pcm is from a 2004 Chevy truck. I believe after 2007 the transmissions were controlled by a tcm not the pcm. Can I still control the newer transmission with the 2004 PCM?

You can do a segment swap and control the 4l80 with your 2004 PCM if there is a matching OS with a 4l80 tune.

Can I perform all these things and a segment swap with hp tuners standard?

The standard can do everything everything the Pro can minus plug in external inputs (like wideband) and data log without a laptop. You will have the access to the same tables with the standard or pro.

Do I use up any additional credits to do a segment swap.

A normal segment swap does not use additional credits.

Most of us are running junkyard PCMs in our swaps so what happens if my PCM takes a dump. Do i need to use 2 additional credits to license another junkyard PCM?

Yes if your pcm were to fail you would have to use 2 additional credits on the new pcm. However is it very rare to have a pcm fail.


I assume HP tuners won't have any problem tuning the PCM in a swap vehicle?

Nope, HP Tuners doesnt care if the vehicle is a swap or not, it just see's a pcm. Its going to be up to you to change the correct tables for the swap to run correctly.

Sorry for all the question hopefully I can better inform myself before purchasing the software.
Its better to ask all the questions now before you buy it vs after buying it and it not be what you thought. I also recommend downloading the demo version and taking a look at it to make sure its something you want to commit time to learning.
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