HP tuners Tune Info
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HP tuners Tune Info New to the Hp tuner world and was wondering if there was anywhere else besides the Hp tuner depository where you can find and download tunes? Seems like there isn't a wide selection of tunes on their website for as long as they've been around and the ones that are there are mostly just stock tunes. Thanks for the info
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Using someone elses tune is like licking someone else's half eaten ice-cream or wearing someone elses underwear!
HPTuner is much much more than a flash tool.
Plus there is a large risk in loading someone else's junk into your ECU. Some folks have some really strange ideas regarding tuning parameters, and you can easily cause serious damage to your motor.
Read the manual, read the posts in this forums tuner section https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning-7/
Check in other forums tuning section as well for advice and insight.
Find a local tuner who uses HPTuner pay for a tuning session and ask him to show you the ropes and have you make the changes on your computer so you understand what is happening.
In the end you need to understand what a motor wants and how to manipulate a tune.
I started with OEM emmissions diagnostic training and from there attended DynoJet's tuning school, that gave me control systems understanding and dyno operation experience which can be applied to any tuning system. The rest is learning the tuning tools and combining that with my old school tuning experience gave me a good leg up.
The biggest mistakes I see with EFI tuning/experimentation is not having a back up, you must always save your last known good tune and your original starting point. Those files need to be saved in a second place besides your tuning computer. DO NOT KEEP ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET! Back up your tuning files to another machine regularly. "My computer crashed and my car wont run!" or "I just reset "x" and now it won't run" are the most often heard complaints. My response to that is use your back up files to get back to where you were. Learn these habits early and save yourself from grief.
HPTuner is much much more than a flash tool.
Plus there is a large risk in loading someone else's junk into your ECU. Some folks have some really strange ideas regarding tuning parameters, and you can easily cause serious damage to your motor.
Read the manual, read the posts in this forums tuner section https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning-7/
Check in other forums tuning section as well for advice and insight.
Find a local tuner who uses HPTuner pay for a tuning session and ask him to show you the ropes and have you make the changes on your computer so you understand what is happening.
In the end you need to understand what a motor wants and how to manipulate a tune.
I started with OEM emmissions diagnostic training and from there attended DynoJet's tuning school, that gave me control systems understanding and dyno operation experience which can be applied to any tuning system. The rest is learning the tuning tools and combining that with my old school tuning experience gave me a good leg up.
The biggest mistakes I see with EFI tuning/experimentation is not having a back up, you must always save your last known good tune and your original starting point. Those files need to be saved in a second place besides your tuning computer. DO NOT KEEP ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET! Back up your tuning files to another machine regularly. "My computer crashed and my car wont run!" or "I just reset "x" and now it won't run" are the most often heard complaints. My response to that is use your back up files to get back to where you were. Learn these habits early and save yourself from grief.
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Thanks for the info, I completely understand not wanting to use someone else's tune because someone could buy hp tuners and automatically think they're a great tuner and f some stuff up, but what I was wondering is isn't that kinda what you're doing with an expensive mail order tune? I mean I'm sure the programmer takes your perimeters into consideration but if you tell him hey I've got AFR heads and a tr224 cam I doubt very seriously my tune would be any different than someone who tells him hey I've got P&P 243 heads with a tr224 cam with out having a log file. Not looking to use someone else's complete tune but It'd be nice to see what kind of changes where made with different setups is all I'm saying but Reading the forums and searching for modifications that other users have done is an excellent Idea hadn't thought of that. Again I'm new to this whole tuning process I know a lot about cars been a mechanic for over 10years with GM but I'm not going into this with any Idea's that I know what I'm doing because I know you can mess a lot stuff up lol
Truth is if you don't understand tuning basics, ie engine needs as in air, fuel, and spark, you don't know a lot about cars regardless how long you've been working on them. That is the whole other aspect to tuning completely separate from learning the software and tables. Too many people buy tuning products not completely understand the tuning basics.
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Lol yeah obviously I don't know a lot about cars since Im not a professional tuner Just so you know and I could really give a f*ck less that you do but Im fully aware of how air flow timing spark and fuel tuning works I was simply asking questions to make sure my first few tunes didn't get off In left field A wise man knows you can never have to much information.
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but in all seriousness I'm not on here to argue with you 2xls1 , I have read a lot in every forum about how you don't want to load someone else's tune into your vehicle which I totally agree with but however again how is that different from getting a mail order tune is my question now I understand that tuner shop that does mail order tunes have a lot of experience but who's to say they didn't accidentally load the wrong tune into your pcm
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but in all seriousness I'm not on here to argue with you 2xls1 , I have read a lot in every forum about how you don't want to load someone else's tune into your vehicle which I totally agree with but however again how is that different from getting a mail order tune is my question now I understand that tuner shop that does mail order tunes have a lot of experience but who's to say they didn't accidentally load the wrong tune into your pcm
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A mail order tune is only marginally better than something downloaded from an amature.
It does not take into account for mfgr tolerance drift and other variables.
If you install a wideband O2 sensor and gauge you can use that input to help you make tuning decisions. But you really need in depth understanding what is happening behind the basics.
It does not take into account for mfgr tolerance drift and other variables.
If you install a wideband O2 sensor and gauge you can use that input to help you make tuning decisions. But you really need in depth understanding what is happening behind the basics.