I have destroyed my windows Surface 3 tablet: Tried to change the internal battery, and shattered the screen in disassembly. Now it will not turn on.
In the market for a new tuning tablet. bare bones, need to run HPTuners, and not much else. Maybe try my hand at the TunerPro free ware tuning as well....
Recommend me a cheap, functional tablet , preferably simple, generic charge cable port, able to charge from regular USB car charger. " Spend my money.... but not much of it "
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im looking for the same thing . what does it need to be windows 10 ? ill be using a mpv1 pro with version 2.4xx software . I wont even connect mine to the internet .

 

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I will definitely need a device that runs Windows 10, which cannot stay current without at least occasional internet.

 

If you never connect to the Internet you don't need all the claimed patches/upgrades to the OS, Win 7 does just fine in my opinion. VCM Scanner logs pids pretty fast even on slow machines, I don't think you "need" a kickass machine for tuning.

I understand the convenience of having the machine in tablet form, but it's SOOO much easier to find a crappy cheap workhorse laptop instead, and down the road you can just buy a replacement battery off of ebay if needed or swap out the hard drive if needed etc.. Windows Tablets are such a pain to deal with for the long run especially on durability.

All that said, if I HAD to get a tablet, I'd try out one of the "convertible" laptops (touchscreen where the keyboard detaches or flips around so it's like a tablet) at a local retailer like Best Buy or Walmart or something, because then you can try it out and return it without all the hassle that an online retailer would be if it's not what you wanted. Not cheap though.

You could do what I do. I have an old Ebay laptop, and bought another one just like it also from Ebay as a backup. Make sure it's a name brand so parts are out there, like Dell Latitudes or something. The pair combined was less than any tablet I could find. I run Win 7, never connect to the Internet and have used a variety of HPT versions ranging up to v 4.2 I think it is now, whatever that last version just before that forced secret MPVI firmware upgrade that caused all the problems and pissed people off. Opening someone else's tune or archiving my log files are a bit of a pain since it's airgapped, I use a USB thumbdrive to transfer things around.

I've even opened one of these laptops and replaced a noisy fan, the fan was again a common cheap ebay part since Dell's are so standardized.

Hopefully I'll be good for years to come.

 

I got one of these, removed "S" mode. loaded hpt 4.x and it works great with about 10 hours on battery life. It's in a cheap cloth pistol case and can go anywhere. windows 11.

only drawback is no touch screen. For $109 in black it's a steal.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-14...?skuId=6508084

 

I bought another machine for another purpose that had that "S" mode, it pissed me off because Microsoft REQUIRED that I make an account and verify my identity in order to remove the S mode. I just reformatted the whole computer to Windows 10. MS is going the way of everyone else and getting too deep where they shouldn't be. I'll never get Windows 11 until I'm in a no-win situation where I have to have it, and even then it'll be emulated.

It'd be GREEEEAT if HPT had a Linux version, wow I'd love that. But that'll never happen understandably because tuners aren't computer folks and need the simplest troublefree out of the box OS, which clearly Windows is.

 

You can create a BS MS account , remove S mode and not let them know who is using the laptop. that way they wont be able to track you.

 

By that point they've already tracked you, your IP address, the machine and Windows key you are requesting S mode removal on, your cookies/created accounts/whatever else the machine has dumped to them behind the scenes during this process. Why do I need to do that at all on a brand new computer and OS I just paid a lot of money for? This isn't a free thing like Facebook or Twitter, who use that "free" excuse for tracking. And Win 11 is getting worse. The "S mode disable" should be local checkbox for an admin-level account on the machine. I know this is off topic but slippery slope needs to stop with them IMO.

I understand your point and I understand that I am the oddball here. Most people are all OK with all of this. Facebook tracking too. Apple as well.

But if I recall, I was LOCKED into their Windows Store and unable to install ANY of my own software until I let the computer phone home to them with this account and report whatever it needed to report to give me permission to install ANYTHING. I think that was the case at the time, I could be remembering wrong. I just reformatted it with Win10 and never looked back. And yes I patch offline and use a auth'd web proxy with my Win10 as well so it can't phone home.

 

Grab whatever $200 or cheaper windows laptop that's on sale, you don't need anything powerful for Holley, Hptuners, FuelTech, MSD, etc. My last few have been from HP, keep your software and tunes backed up on a USB drive and you don't have to worry about internet.

I tried a tablet for awhile and it was fine for logging, but sucked to change multiple tables quickly.

 

I use Linux for everything. To run HP tuners, I installed a Windows virtual machine on my Linux laptop. I have the virtual machine disconnected from the Internet. So there are no forced updates to HP tuners or Windows. Once I had a working system set up, nobody can screw it up with an update.

 

could not find a way to install hpt in s mode. it's the cheapest option I have found at $109.

 

I agree, Win 10 works perfectly fine with everything I've used it with. I don't care so much about whatever Microsoft wants to know because I only use these cheap devices for car crap. I just don't want automatic software updates like what happened to Cobb, HPtuners, multiple diesel tuners, etc to update and take away functionality of the product due to some knee jerk EPA ruling. I like keeping old versions on file for certain things.

 

I'd love to be able to do that on my Pixelbook GO.

I just can't find the time to research how to go about it, or if it's even possible.

 

can i use windows 7 or does it have to be windows 10 . Also what is s mode ?Ive changed my mind and want a laptop now so something cheap .

 

Yes, you can use win7. It comes with Win 11.Primarily, S mode restricts you to only programs that are on the play store. so no HPT. Thus you have to reset it to non-S mode. It can be confusing to convert but not bad. There are online tutorials on doing it. LIke I said, for $109 its the best bang for the buck at this time that I could find.

 

Pixelbook should be able to run Ubuntu, then you can run a Windows VM from there.

 

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No Ubuntu on the Pixelbook Go, unfortunately.

I'll look into another distribution.

Thanks for the idea- this thing is a hotrod for what it is, so it would be nice if I could run a windows VM on it.

 

Well, to simplify it a bit ... you don't *have* to run Linux to run a virtual machine. You can run Windows, and then run a Windows virtual machine on that, on which you run your HPTuners setup. The reason for doing this is so that you can set up the virtual machine to have no internet access, so Microsoft and HPTuners can't break your working system with an upgrade that you didn't ask for.

I use the Oracle VirtualBox virtual machine software. I'm not claiming it's the best, but it does everything I need and is free.

 

Yup, you can get an older macbook air off amazon for $200, use bootcamp for free and turn the wifi off on the windows partition, works pretty good and they last longer than the plastic computers getting thrown around in cars.