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Old 06-17-2024, 05:29 PM
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Default Added 30% and still LEAN.. any ideas?

Seems crazy lean. Tune and log attached as well as video of fuel pressure

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trick flow heads
ls6 intake
id1050x injectors
hellcat pump
d1x procharger
speed density with 2bar map

currently open headers and open TB just trying to get baseline but didn’t see much change after 30% fuel increase before attached log
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Putting the correct injector data in would be a good start.....
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Putting the correct injector data in would be a good start.....
you’re not the first to say this… where is it wrong?
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Originally Posted by L33
you’re not the first to say this… where is it wrong?
Then I'd start listening before you blow your **** up.

I attached the injector data and changed the data in your tune that needed to be.

It's setup for a vacuum referenced fuel pressure regulator w/ base pressure at 58psi.
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Use the compare function to see the changes. If you have any questions about why they were changed let me know.
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Use the compare function to see the changes. If you have any questions about why they were changed let me know.
I had a reputable tuner put in and confirm my injector data, that’s why I was questioning it. Not trying to be a pain at all, just trying to get on the right track. I’ll run your changes and check back. Thank you so much
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That tune was set up for 60'ish lb injectors and a returnless system

The ID1050x flow 109lb/hr at 4 bar pressure.

With a vacuum referenced FPR, the flow rate needs to be the same because the FPR lowers the fuel pressure w/ vacuum to keep the differental pressure the same. In a returnless system, where the fuel pressure is a fixed pressure, the PCM takes care of it.
I'm not sure why the injector flow rate vs voltage was changed. I don't remember ever seeing that table anything except 1.0

I also changed a value in the transient fuel section, normally with big injectors if you don't, it will run rich no matter how much fuel you take out.
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Also something i just noticed, the MAF isn't failed properly. P0101,102,103 needs to be set to report on first error.

The boost PE table needs to be set up. It's all 1.0

That timing table is going to blow your engine up too. That's for a NA motor, and will boost you are going to max out that air mass quickly which is going to put you at 26 degrees of timing in boost.

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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
That tune was set up for 60'ish lb injectors and a returnless system

The ID1050x flow 109lb/hr at 4 bar pressure.

With a vacuum referenced FPR, the flow rate needs to be the same because the FPR lowers the fuel pressure w/ vacuum to keep the differental pressure the same. In a returnless system, where the fuel pressure is a fixed pressure, the PCM takes care of it.
I'm not sure why the injector flow rate vs voltage was changed. I don't remember ever seeing that table anything except 1.0

I also changed a value in the transient fuel section, normally with big injectors if you don't, it will run rich no matter how much fuel you take out.
I really appreciate the info... before this rebuild / blower build I ran a returness system with LS6 injectors. Does the tune look like it was setup for that? I guess theres a chance some confusion happened and my injector data didnt get put in.... Im currently getting the kids all fed and clean and off to bed so its gonna be a minute before I can get back to the garage but I really do appreciate it man!
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No worries, shoot me a PM
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Also something i just noticed, the MAF isn't failed properly. P0101,102,103 needs to be set to report on first error.

The boost PE table needs to be set up. It's all 1.0

That timing table is going to blow your engine up too. That's for a NA motor, and will boost you are going to max out that air mass quickly which is going to put you at 26 degrees of timing in boost.
charge pipe is not attached. Literally just got engine running after a rebuild that was an NA 5.3 with LS6 top end (intake and ported 799s)

now it’s full built/balanced bottom with different heads, blower cam, and bigger injectors … and (unhooked) procharger.

trying to get it running for testing purposes right now, not to drive or boost whatsoever yet.

would I be better going back to a stock silverado tune and doing the SD and injector changes?

can I PM you maybe? I can pay
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Raw fuel on an o2 sensor will read lean
open headers I’m not sure I’d trust an o2 sensor at idle anyway



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