LS Will not idle no matter what
Well, ****. I was really hoping you bungled the leakdown test, because those numbers are a big problem since it sounds like you did it properly. The only way I see getting a good compression test and a bad leakdown test would involve the valves hanging open when turned slowly by hand, but not when the starter is spinning up a compression cycle. Time to look at valve guides and springs. I hope my speculation is wrong at this point.
Any idea what could have caused the leaks in the top end? I assembled the bottom end and paid a trusted machine shop to build the heads with new valve seals, springs, guides, etc. specifically so I wouldn't mess it up lol.
That is the only thing that makes sense to me too. I guess on the bright side, the bottom end (rings) are probably good and won't need to be torn down? Guess we won't really know for certain until it's pulled and opened up.
Any idea what could have caused the leaks in the top end? I assembled the bottom end and paid a trusted machine shop to build the heads with new valve seals, springs, guides, etc. specifically so I wouldn't mess it up lol.
Any idea what could have caused the leaks in the top end? I assembled the bottom end and paid a trusted machine shop to build the heads with new valve seals, springs, guides, etc. specifically so I wouldn't mess it up lol.
Good point. I did actually pull the driver's valve cover when my valve cover seal blew out last week during this whole mess. I didn't notice anything obvious, but I also wasn't inspecting for an issue
I agree with @gametech that 195 compression with 75% leak down is implausible. I have always struggled with leak down tests, forgetting steps, having the piston shoot down, getting a defective tester, etc.
As mentioned, tests are best done with valve covers off. When valves are completely closed you should be able to wiggle the rocker back and forth a bit.
We look forward to updates and hopefully hearing of your success.
As mentioned, tests are best done with valve covers off. When valves are completely closed you should be able to wiggle the rocker back and forth a bit.
We look forward to updates and hopefully hearing of your success.
I agree with @gametech that 195 compression with 75% leak down is implausible. I have always struggled with leak down tests, forgetting steps, having the piston shoot down, getting a defective tester, etc.
As mentioned, tests are best done with valve covers off. When valves are completely closed you should be able to wiggle the rocker back and forth a bit.
We look forward to updates and hopefully hearing of your success.
As mentioned, tests are best done with valve covers off. When valves are completely closed you should be able to wiggle the rocker back and forth a bit.
We look forward to updates and hopefully hearing of your success.
Good compression requires both good rings and very good valve sealing. I've seen e.g. a bent valve give me Zero compression.
I went through 3 Amazon leakage testers before I found one that worked properly.
But lets assume that your leakage values are correct, then...
Perhaps one of the more experienced engine builders could chime on whether good compression -OR- poor leakage is more likely an indicator of valve or ring problems.
I went through 3 Amazon leakage testers before I found one that worked properly.
But lets assume that your leakage values are correct, then...
Perhaps one of the more experienced engine builders could chime on whether good compression -OR- poor leakage is more likely an indicator of valve or ring problems.
Last edited by mrvedit; Apr 30, 2025 at 05:25 PM. Reason: typo
Good compression requires both good rings and very good valve sealing. I've seen e.g. a bent valve give me Zero compression.
I went through 3 Amazon leakage testers before I found one that worked properly.
But lets assume that your leakage values are correct, then...
Perhaps one of the more experienced engine builders could chime on whether good compression but poor leakage is more likely an indicator of valve or ring problems.
I went through 3 Amazon leakage testers before I found one that worked properly.
But lets assume that your leakage values are correct, then...
Perhaps one of the more experienced engine builders could chime on whether good compression but poor leakage is more likely an indicator of valve or ring problems.
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I invented the MODERN heart Valve, a cows heart valve.
YES, there is a "whisper" from the port>
Nist certified.
YOU ASKED THE QUESTIOND!
I was taught this by John Drake!
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I invented the MODERN heart Valve, a cows heart valve.
YES, there is a "whisper" from the port>
Nist certified.
YOU ASKED THE QUESTIOND!
I was taught this by John Drake!
We here TRY to hel P!
I talked with him on the phone recently and he sounded fine.
He thinks along different lines than most of us. and so might not get some points across as they are intended.
I was just wondering. The posts seem to get more vague and cryptic as time goes by.
Well I talked with a reputable LS builder/tuner in my area who is gonna get me all squared away hopefully. I will bring him the engine on Monday for an inspection. Hopefully it is just and issue in the top end. He’ll throw it on his dyno and verify the tune before giving it back. I’ll update soon! Thanks for all the help so far
Last edited by trever20; May 1, 2025 at 09:04 AM.












