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Old Jul 31, 2025 | 10:37 AM
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I am currently using, in my 02' camaro, a pcm out of a 99' camaro with a 9373372 OS that has been segment swapped for a 4l80e. I tune using Hptuners and I'm running VCM editor 4.6.3. Right now I am finishing up an engine/trans refresh and want to also start a tune from scratch, as it has been modified through a number of engine combos by different tuners and myself.

Is there any advantage of moving to an 02' 12212156 OS from an 02 camaro/firebird? Better resolution or additional tables that would be helpful?

If so, is it more wise to segment swap an 02' OS OR to use a factory 02 truck OS with the 80e segment already?

This will be going into an 02' camaro with a gen3 LS, DBC, 4L80e, and will be using a speed density tune (likely an enhanced 1bar mod from Hptuners)
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Definitely put the correct OS in there for your 2002 Camaro for starters and just segment swap the 4L80 part into it.
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Any time the correct year and model OS is an option, use that to avoid any future issues with gauges, bcm, etc. There is a ton of swap info available, but why even take the chance on an issue if it is not necessary?
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The car currently has the 99 PCM and OS in a gutted 02' body and harness. BUILD THREAD I'm really asking if there is any distinguishable/favorable difference between my current 9373372OS and the later released 12212156 OS. Everything I am seeing online is showing that the 12212156 is more desirable, but no real reason why.

ALSO, will I be able to update the VIN number in my 99' pcm to match the 02' body it is currently in without updating the OS?

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Originally Posted by GtoProject
The car currently has the 99 PCM and OS in a gutted 02' body and harness. BUILD THREAD I'm really asking if there is any distinguishable/favorable difference between my current 9373372OS and the later released 12212156 OS. Everything I am seeing online is showing that the 12212156 is more desirable, but no real reason why.

ALSO, will I be able to update the VIN number in my 99' pcm to match the 02' body it is currently in without updating the OS?
Some software will allow you to put just about any VIN in anything, but Hptuners can be picky about VIN/OS mismatches. I would definitely pose this question on the HPT forum with the exact OS numbers as you have done here. It is likely someone in the gen3 v8 section over there will know for sure.
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Originally Posted by GtoProject
The car currently has the 99 PCM and OS in a gutted 02' body and harness. BUILD THREAD I'm really asking if there is any distinguishable/favorable difference between my current 9373372OS and the later released 12212156 OS. Everything I am seeing online is showing that the 12212156 is more desirable, but no real reason why.

ALSO, will I be able to update the VIN number in my 99' pcm to match the 02' body it is currently in without updating the OS?
Yes the newer OS has a better charge temp model, one main VE table, and a host of other small things. The fact that you have an 02 body/VIN is another reason to use the newer 02 OS, so it matches. I see no reason to use a 99 OS as the PCMs are basically the same and you can just put the 02 OS with the 02 VIN in it.
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I used to tune everything with efi live (10+ years ago) and it doesnt care about the vin/os mismatch so I used to flash every 99-01 f-body over the the 02 12212156 OS for years just to have the better tables.
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Originally Posted by NicD
Yes the newer OS has a better charge temp model, one main VE table, and a host of other small things. The fact that you have an 02 body/VIN is another reason to use the newer 02 OS, so it matches. I see no reason to use a 99 OS as the PCMs are basically the same and you can just put the 02 OS with the 02 VIN in it.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by GtoProject
The car currently has the 99 PCM and OS in a gutted 02' body and harness. BUILD THREAD I'm really asking if there is any distinguishable/favorable difference between my current 9373372OS and the later released 12212156 OS. Everything I am seeing online is showing that the 12212156 is more desirable, but no real reason why.

ALSO, will I be able to update the VIN number in my 99' pcm to match the 02' body it is currently in without updating the OS?
ve very cautious about swapping OS. Ifyou have the original PCM stick with it and stick with the OS in my oppinion. I took some advice and swapped OS for one with some more paramiters that I probably didnt need and now I got a brick that wont even ground pin reset. Been pulling out my hair and cursing this thing for a week got help from some of the top guys on here and still dead in the water. So I would say to you be very cery cautious about making a change and do your homework and then do some more. Make sure it is really worth it to change but my gieas is your juat fine with what you have. Leave well enough alone and sleeping dogs lay....
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Originally Posted by BReal408
ve very cautious about swapping OS. Ifyou have the original PCM stick with it and stick with the OS in my oppinion. I took some advice and swapped OS for one with some more paramiters that I probably didnt need and now I got a brick that wont even ground pin reset. Been pulling out my hair and cursing this thing for a week got help from some of the top guys on here and still dead in the water. So I would say to you be very cery cautious about making a change and do your homework and then do some more. Make sure it is really worth it to change but my gieas is your juat fine with what you have. Leave well enough alone and sleeping dogs lay....
He's using HP Tuners, it won't be a problem. There are some advantages to using commercial software to do things, it just works.
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Originally Posted by BReal408
ve very cautious about swapping OS. Ifyou have the original PCM stick with it and stick with the OS in my oppinion. I took some advice and swapped OS for one with some more paramiters that I probably didnt need and now I got a brick that wont even ground pin reset. Been pulling out my hair and cursing this thing for a week got help from some of the top guys on here and still dead in the water. So I would say to you be very cery cautious about making a change and do your homework and then do some more. Make sure it is really worth it to change but my gieas is your juat fine with what you have. Leave well enough alone and sleeping dogs lay....
Ive flashed thousands of P01 and P59 PCMs and performed numerous OS changes, continuing to do so weekly for swap projects. Ive never had one permanently fail when using EFI Live or HP Tuners. The risk is very low as long as youre using a quality bench harness or, if flashing in-vehicle, maintaining a stable 12+ volts and avoiding interference from aftermarket electronics such as radios. While I have had some fail mid-flash in-vehicle, every one of them recovered with a bench re-flash. Im not saying they cant be bricked, but its very hard to brick them when using commercial tuning software like EFI Live or HP Tuners. In my experience, MPVI2 (and newer) interfaces tend to be more finicky with P01 and P59 PCMs compared to the older MPVI units. On rare occasions, Ive had to use EFI Live or an older MPVI to complete a flash when the MPVI2 would not.
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