PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

E38 ECM compatibility

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 5, 2025 | 07:45 PM
  #1  
Che70velle's Avatar
Thread Starter
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 5,202
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default E38 ECM compatibility

I’ve got a 2012 silveraydo crew with a 5.3 and the 6L80 trans. Truck is my daily and it’s nice, low miles, etc. I’ve had an L92 in the corner for a while and I’ve decided to go through it, and I’d like to put it in my truck. Question…I’ve got a chance to buy a 2008 E38 ECM that controlled an L92. I’d rather go this route…I think…rather than have a tuner mess my crap up. Will this 2008 ECM play nice with my 2012 truck? I’ve got HP tuners…remove VATS and go? Pros and cons please guys. Walk me through this….
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2025 | 08:02 PM
  #2  
B52bombardier1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 270
From: Bossier City, Louisiana
Default

I'm gonna be a pessimist here. Instrument cluster functionality differences? Engine harness wiring and connector differences. Body control module differences? Transmission Control Module differences? Electronic throttle pedal and TAC module incompatibilities? HP Tuners will be the least of your problems but yes, given enough time, money and heartache, it could probably be done.

I think a Sniper II to control it all might be an easier method.

Rick
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2025 | 08:48 PM
  #3  
gametech's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 909
From: Stockbridge GA
Default

Originally Posted by Che70velle
I’ve got a 2012 silveraydo crew with a 5.3 and the 6L80 trans. Truck is my daily and it’s nice, low miles, etc. I’ve had an L92 in the corner for a while and I’ve decided to go through it, and I’d like to put it in my truck. Question…I’ve got a chance to buy a 2008 E38 ECM that controlled an L92. I’d rather go this route…I think…rather than have a tuner mess my crap up. Will this 2008 ECM play nice with my 2012 truck? I’ve got HP tuners…remove VATS and go? Pros and cons please guys. Walk me through this….
You build engines for a living, and you really have the restraint to go through an l92 and still leave it bone stock? If not, you are stuck tuning anyway, and the question is moot.
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2025 | 09:57 PM
  #4  
Che70velle's Avatar
Thread Starter
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 5,202
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

My current ECM is an E38…NO?
I’m no tuner, so I’m asking…am I better off simply having my ECM re-flashed with an L92 tune, or would it be easier/quicker to buy this E38 from a 2008 L92 and delete Vats?
I know enough about tuning to be dangerous, so what’s the easiest step here?
The L92 has 403 HP and 417 torque…far more than my LC9 5.3…so I’m good with that. I’m not throwing headers at it, nor anything else. Just an L92 with a little more compression and a performance valve job. Should make 100ish more torque and 100ish more torque than what I’ve got. A cam will only hurt low end torque…which is where I drive this thing…plus I’m 53 years old, and I’m over looking for crazy power. My Chevelle will supply any possible need I might have for getting stupid on the street. My silveraydo is just a camping rig with a rooftop tent and camping supplies in the back…365 days of the year. Help me understand if this 2008 ECM will work or not please.
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2025 | 10:49 PM
  #5  
gametech's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 909
From: Stockbridge GA
Default

Gen4 computers can have some odd quirks such as the fact that Hptuners can't clone a different OS from one to another like it can do with gen3 computers. I still believe your best bet would likely be to use your existing pcm and copy the relevant engine related changes from a same year l92 tune. However, since gen4 computers have a lot of torque based tables AND a separate TCM, I'm not sure if you would also need to make significant changes to your TCM as well. There is a whole section of the HPT forum with more detailed info on the matter. Someone there will likely know the exact answers you are looking for.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2025 | 01:14 AM
  #6  
1FastBrick's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,749
Likes: 640
From: JunkYard
Default

Originally Posted by Che70velle
My current ECM is an E38…NO?
I’m no tuner, so I’m asking…am I better off simply having my ECM re-flashed with an L92 tune, or would it be easier/quicker to buy this E38 from a 2008 L92 and delete Vats?
I know enough about tuning to be dangerous, so what’s the easiest step here?
The L92 has 403 HP and 417 torque…far more than my LC9 5.3…so I’m good with that. I’m not throwing headers at it, nor anything else. Just an L92 with a little more compression and a performance valve job. Should make 100ish more torque and 100ish more torque than what I’ve got. A cam will only hurt low end torque…which is where I drive this thing…plus I’m 53 years old, and I’m over looking for crazy power. My Chevelle will supply any possible need I might have for getting stupid on the street. My Silverado is just a camping rig with a rooftop tent and camping supplies in the back…365 days of the year. Help me understand if this 2008 ECM will work or not please.
Yes you have an E38. When Flashing with HPT you need to be careful and use similar years unless you are Flashing it first with Genuine GM software. There were some things that changed from say 07-08 Vs 10-12.
I would pull the ECU in your truck and get the service number off it and find a similar unit from a V8/ 6 speed doner. That will ensure the best success. You can not use the 4 cylinder units. There is something different inside of them. Possibly missing the injector driver circuits or something. I have never opened one and I am not a professional tuner by any stretch. But I did brick few trying to flash V8 file onto a non V8 ECU. HPT was useless in figuring out the issue, but through other channels I found out the firm ware is tune File specific. They also made some running changes and I am told you can not use an Early ECU say an 08 to control a 12.

https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ity-on-e38-t43

At least EFI LIVE was working on a guide but it was never completed it stops at the 10 model year.

https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...ity-on-e38-t43
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2025 | 08:30 PM
  #7  
Che70velle's Avatar
Thread Starter
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 5,202
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

Originally Posted by gametech
Gen4 computers can have some odd quirks such as the fact that Hptuners can't clone a different OS from one to another like it can do with gen3 computers. I still believe your best bet would likely be to use your existing pcm and copy the relevant engine related changes from a same year l92 tune. However, since gen4 computers have a lot of torque based tables AND a separate TCM, I'm not sure if you would also need to make significant changes to your TCM as well. There is a whole section of the HPT forum with more detailed info on the matter. Someone there will likely know the exact answers you are looking for.
The E38 I can grab is from a 6.2 2008 truck, but I think I’d rather…at this point…try and import a 6.2 tune into my ECM. I don’t want to get into a deal where the “new” ECM doesn’t play well with other systems…that’s the last thing I want. Biggest deal from what I’ve read is the VVT tables being correct. I have access to a great tuner, so I think I’ll call him and ask questions, and see what he knows about the swap. I appreciate you guys jumping in here and sharing your knowledge.
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2025 | 09:47 PM
  #8  
Robbi18's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2025
Posts: 61
Likes: 7
From: United States
Default

Originally Posted by Che70velle
I’ve got a 2012 silveraydo crew with a 5.3 and the 6L80 trans. Truck is my daily and it’s nice, low miles, etc. I’ve had an L92 in the corner for a while and I’ve decided to go through it, and I’d like to put it in my truck. Question…I’ve got a chance to buy a 2008 E38 ECM that controlled an L92. I’d rather go this route…I think…rather than have a tuner mess my crap up. Will this 2008 ECM play nice with my 2012 truck? I’ve got HP tuners…remove VATS and go? Pros and cons please guys. Walk me through this….
Don't use the 2008 ECM. It's a huge headache. Your 2012 truck's body control modules and security system will likely not communicate with the older E38. You'll have nothing but error codes and problems.

Stick with your stock 2012 ECM. Use your HP Tuners to flash an L92 operating system onto it. Then you just need a professional tuner to disable VATS and dial in the tune for your specific engine. This is the much cleaner and more reliable way to do the swap.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:04 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE