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Old 08-30-2004, 09:26 AM
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DO you have EGR hooked up on the car? if not shoot me PM
Old 08-30-2004, 10:37 PM
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Mine goes into cell 22 also at random after being driven over 30 mins and up to temp . . . . wtf
Old 03-19-2005, 11:28 AM
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I've also had this going on lately. The car randomly goes between cells 15 & 22 at wot. It's also a '98 with SVO#30, !EGR, modifed VE & PE tables etc. From the logs it seems the EVAP tests never complete. Can I eliminate the EVAP completely somehow ? .. so it would not be messing with the cells.
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Originally Posted by pekkaz
I've also had this going on lately. The car randomly goes between cells 15 & 22 at wot. It's also a '98 with SVO#30, !EGR, modifed VE & PE tables etc. From the logs it seems the EVAP tests never complete. Can I eliminate the EVAP completely somehow ? .. so it would not be messing with the cells.
It was my understanding the Cell 15, 22 are both used for WOT?
Old 03-20-2005, 01:57 PM
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I have this problem as well, 16% TPS It's going to FTC 22. I do have the rear vette o2 sensors.
Attached is a snap shot of were it happens:

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Mine has also been dropping into FTC 22 for no apparent reason lately. Going to do some more logging today and see if I can find some pattern to it.
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Originally Posted by God Forgives I Dont
It was my understanding the Cell 15, 22 are both used for WOT?
Cell 15 is high rpm and load, but still closed loop. You will usually see cell 15 right before you cross the TPS % threshold and go into open loop, cell 22.
Old 03-20-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by God Forgives I Dont
Mine has also been dropping into FTC 22 for no apparent reason lately. Going to do some more logging today and see if I can find some pattern to it.
Try logging fuel system>afr commanded and engine>emissions>commanded evap purge %. See how those change when you go to cell 22.
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Haven't had a chance to do more logging yet,but here is a pic of mine jumping into cell 22 for no reason.
Attached Thumbnails Crap...FTC 22 comes up randomly...Bink...Anybody?-ftc-22-chart-sm.jpg   Crap...FTC 22 comes up randomly...Bink...Anybody?-ftc-22.jpg   Crap...FTC 22 comes up randomly...Bink...Anybody?-ftc-22-11-tp-sml.jpg  
Old 07-29-2005, 11:07 AM
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anyone figure any of this out? i get ftc 22 wot and go very rich
Old 07-29-2005, 11:14 AM
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22 is the WOT FTC
Old 07-29-2005, 11:17 AM
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ok cause i have read that 15 is for wot, humpinss, ive got a thread going about + trims wot, did it at the track but not on the street, can you give me your input on that please, ran rich as crap at the drag strip
Old 07-29-2005, 11:23 AM
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cell 15 is the PE cell right before the transition to WOT IIRC its still a closed loop cell. WOT is open loop and cell 22. You need to look at your trims right before you transition to WOT if they are positive they will applied at WOT. Sounds like what you are seeing. You need a little more ve tuning or maf tweaking to get rid of this and get the correct fueling at WOT. Even thoguh the cell may "appear" negative look more closely chances are the moment before they arent. Also have you turned off COT
Old 07-29-2005, 11:27 AM
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cot is off, the car, while on the street, hasnt shown this and the only thing changed was the o2s to the denso vette rears. right before i got wot the trims are all right around 0 then they shoot up to +9. ill try to get a screen shot up tonight when i get home, ive never had this problem before so i dont know much how to fix it. im in sd mode as well
Old 07-29-2005, 11:30 AM
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Cell 22 is power enrichment modified, so the values in your pe vs rpm table are probably too big.

Changing values in your ve table effect the pe table vs rpm also,

Cells 0 to 15 can be defined by two tables, Or if you want to see how the tables are defined, all you do is look at the two tables and draw a line on each one that is set and that will make your cell grid for your specific application.

most of the time you will never see a higher cell like 15 because it should be very high rpm and no vac.. so in that area is normally always wot.
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thanks for the info. ill try to get 2 logs of a street run and track run to compair. right now my pe value is 1.18. last night i added to my ve then smoothed, trims went from 9 to 7, then i did another and did not smooth this, well i added 7 to every value in the area i saw 7 so it woudlnt smooth too much.

how could the car not do this on the street? could the new o2s be changing things that much?
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anyone willing to help out shoot me over your email address and ill send the logs, im stumped
Old 07-29-2005, 04:18 PM
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here is my other thread,

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...31#post3269531

let me know if that sound like it could have caused it
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i get cell 22 at WOT also.
no cats, no egr.

I have some A-tap files if you want to compare or if you want me to do some with different paramenters.
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[QUOTE=WicketMike]i get cell 22 at WOT also.
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That's normal. He's trying to figure out why he gets cell 22 when not at wot.



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