Yes you can. I am not to sure aobut plugging it back in, and i havent tried yet. Yes the ve table will affect PE with the maf unplugeed you ve table better be dialed in. Yes, that is one way to look at it.

 

Here is a pic of my VE table, all hand smoothed.

 

DAYUM THAT IS SWEET. How come the axixies (sp) are reversed?

Hell I am about to send you my bin file so you can get mine to look like that. :cheers;

j/k

 

You try out that Holden MAF table yet?

 

nope not yet. The weather is affecting the car. Acts like a carb if you ask me

 

Really? I haven't had that problem, what is it doing?

 

It just may be the short drives... I will verify for sure tomorrow sometime.

It still seems like its loading up a bit. But that may mean i need some more logging time to really get it dialed in

Do you use the avg when you are logging?

I am and just wanted to make sure we are on the same page

 

I just swung the table around a little bit. hold both mouse buttons and drag the table around.

edit: I believe that info is in the help files.

 

LOL I havent read the help files :doh::sillyme:

 

Yeah, you have to read the help file. LOL.

 

Yes, I use the average when I am logging. If the average is closer to 0 I figure it has to swing less either direction which would make the tune more stable. That part is just my opinion though.

 

unless the VE table operates differently then what im used to, Dirk it look like youll be lean at peak torque and rich up top, assuming injector flow ratings are where they should be. Have you had it on a dyno to check this out?

Part of the benefits of the MAF, is that it does a decent job accounting for weather changes because the density of the air changes. Im sure thats why GM likes to rely on 2 inputs, to reduce error. Remove the MAF, and now you have to fix the error!

 

I agree, his readings below 1600 rpms are low from scaling them. As he tunes the VE it should start to pull up. I would think.

 

I havent had it to the dyno but the WB indicates me being rich throughout the range based on some track runs... 4k-6.5k

The maf has been removed because it seemed to cause issues with fueling. IE postive trims no matter what i did. even scaling the ifr table had no effect on the trims.

The table overlay indicates higer than stock values from 3600 on up in the higher map values.

My ve table is being tweaked via the trims histogram minus the MAF, trying to hit as many closed loop cells on the histogram as possible.

Jeff do you have any suggestions or anyone else for that matter

 

We spent alot of time last night on my car but here's my new VE table Idles better than with the MAF that's for sure...

 

They are all starting to look very similar. Mine looks pretty close, but I am not done yet.

 

If that is the case :wtf: am i doing wrong

 

Why do you think you are doing something wrong?

 

nothing necessarily wrong, just a litlte out of whack but im just judging form you VE. It seems to be right on where it looks like it should, your rich from torque peak to hp peak right

 

Just asking everyone seems to have a smooth table except MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

I guess I need to take some more time rotating and smoothing

Jeff not to bust your ***** but your two posts seem to contradict each other after all you are the resident guru and i am jut the whipper snapper