Blackbird

From what I have been reading it seems like most of the cool features of HP tuners don't work for us 98 guys???

teetering between upgrading my ls1-edit to either tuners or flashscan.

either HP Tuners the company, or owners of the software with 98's, let me know why / if I should go with Tuners over Flashscan. Because at this point it seems like I should base my decision on the datalogging portion of the software more than the programming (since the 98 computer seems to be so limited) and if I do that then EFI-Live gets my $$$.

Thanks in advance!

P Mack

iTrader: (6)

You could always think about getting an 01 or 02 pcm. Sometimes I wish I had an 01 pcm because I could use the primary ve table in sd, and maybe some other things. If I had a 98 it might be worth doing.

slow

iTrader: (7)

a 01 pcm is not a walk in the park swap, like it is with th 99-00 guys.

The Flashscan program for the 98's seems to be free flashing, but who knows how their support will be.

http://www.efilive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1113

Seeing as the don't seem to have all of the data needed for for 98 os's I am holding off purchasing flashscan to try it out.

While I have commented about some of the 98 stuff missing on hp, However they have done a good job making a large amount of it available, expecially due to the limited audience.

Ryan

Blackbird

Efi's support has always been fabulous. I have no worries there.

slow

iTrader: (7)

their customer support is as good as any for the LS1 stuff, my comment was directed towards the number of paramaters they will support.

Ryan

Blackbird

ahhh gotcha.

Another_User

There is nothing wrong with HPTuners 98 support. I can do pretty much anything I want to, and the functions that I may want that are missing (if any) aren't available on any other software anyways. It is the best out there. And it will continue to be as long as they don't get big heads from people saying it.

luv2spd

iTrader: (1)

I'm very pleased with my hptuners software for my 98!

gameover

almost everything that is in the later PCMs is in our software for 98's. If it's not there then 99% of the time it doesn't exist in the PCM.

In fact the only example i can think of that we missed something for the 98's was burst knock and version 1.6.0 adds that.

At current count the 98's have over 400 parameters to edit and if i was to recount the some of the trans tables like some of our competitors (ie. row by row) that would make it well over 500.

The bottom line is this: 98's *are* different and do require a lot of special treatment, the flashing process is different, the recovery process is different, the information stored in the PCM is different, hell sometimes even GM got it wrong on 98's.

As has been touted by many people before us "You don't get something for nothing".

Chris...

Another_User

And actually some of the 98 tables are larger than later models, and allow more control. Not that I can necessarily find good uses for them...but it is not all bad.

Blackbird

so can I tune VE and SD like the 99 and up guys with HP ?

using that histogram stuff and my wideband

Another_User

Yes, the only difference is that we have a lower resolution secondary VE table that is used when the MAF is disconnected. It hasn't given me any problems though.